Killington - Expert trails CLOSED, with NO Snowmaking....

[o3jeff]

With Highwaystar being the only expert there, they figured why should they just cater to him.

 

[Ski the Moguls]

To bad the new gun heads they installed on OL don't put out enough snow. They only cover about 1/3 of the width of the trail if that. Besides OL has been open for weeks already, time to expand the expert terrain. Oh & get those dam kids off of Conclusion & High Line. Let the people that actually pay $80+ for a lift ticket ski them.

Please stop it with this. Those kids paid more than you did in order to compete on those trails. Did you see the Mogul course on Conclusion? Serious respect for those kids.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Just guessing here, but the expert trails are more likely to be used by pass holder (read: no extra income there), while the beginner and intermediate are more likely to bring in more day trippers buying nice expensive tickets.

This may be true, but also anythime I go to any mtn the trails that have the most number of people on them are always the green and blue trails. So if they close one of those trails and have a black open, now they are squeezing the masses onto less terrain, and giving even more room to the pretty empty trails.

 

[steamboat1]

Please stop it with this. Those kids paid more than you did in order to compete on those trails. Did you see the Mogul course on Conclusion? Serious respect for those kids.

Same dam course they've been closing the trail for years now because of.

How many kids pay how much to close 2 of a limited number of expert terrain open. Not to mention Needles some days.

Very poor PR on the mountains part.

 

[Ski the Moguls]

Same dam course they've been closing the trail for years now because of.

How many kids pay how much to close 2 of a limited number of expert terrain open. Not to mention Needles some days.

Very poor PR on the mountains part.

Very wrong on your part. It is great public relations aimed directly at the most serious skiers. Sign up for the Adult Race Week or Weekends if you feel like paying for the same privilege. Though I will admit that closing all of Bunny Buster for one set of gates is annoying. I wish they would only fence off the portion of a trail that they really need - especially with limited terrain. Did you see last weeks "B" Freestylers? They put the course on an unused, and very visible, part of Superstar. That was great. Unfortunately, this weekend's "A" Freestylers needed all the pitch they could get, hence Conclusion.

 

[C-Rex]

Soooo....you guys are saying I shouldn't head to Kton this weekend for the CSC discount?

 

[steamboat1]

Let's see today upper/middle Skyeburst, lower Wildfire, upper Bunny Buster & Highline closed to the public for racing.

Thanks for your understanding.

 

[Black Phantom]

Soooo....you guys are saying I shouldn't head to Kton this weekend for the CSC discount?

Yes. It will be terrible. Magic is where it is at.

 

[C-Rex]

Yes. It will be terrible. Magic is where it is at.

I can never tell when you're being sarcastic or not. Anyone else have an opinion?

 

[SKIQUATTRO]

lots of guns going yesterday at K...i was on Snowdon all day due to my daughters race on top of bunny buster..you could see snow clouds all over the mountain...big thanks goes to K for shutting down snowmaking ops at Pico...

 

[rocojerry]

I can never tell when you're being sarcastic or not. Anyone else have an opinion?

Avoid K on weekends. Even better, avoid it all together.

 

[Ski the Moguls]

I can never tell when you're being sarcastic or not. Anyone else have an opinion?

I was at Pico yesterday and I really wished I was at Killington. Unless you have the time to head further North, I doubt anything else will be as good.

 

[skiur]

lots of guns going yesterday at K...i was on Snowdon all day due to my daughters race on top of bunny buster..you could see snow clouds all over the mountain...big thanks goes to K for shutting down snowmaking ops at Pico...

lots of guns?a few spot guns going on sunday, the rest of the compresors are now gone and all you will see again this year is spot guns. Snowmaking is done for the year, even said so on todays snow report:

The snowcats will be taking to the mountain on Monday night, so expect 66 of our open trails to have fresh corduroy on Tuesday morning. Our snowmakers will be taking a break, but never fear, as they'll return on Friday to touch up the terrain and continue to maintain and improve our surfaces.

touch up maintain and improve is K speak for its done for the year.

 

[steamboat1]

To bad the new gun heads they installed on OL don't put out enough snow. They only cover about 1/3 of the width of the trail if that.

This is what I'm talking about.

 

[deadheadskier]

This is what I'm talking about.

shouldn't they be able to compensate for that by pushing the snow evenly throughout the trail?

I'm not sure of any type of snow gun that's going to cover OL edge to edge.

 

[steamboat1]

shouldn't they be able to compensate for that by pushing the snow evenly throughout the trail?

I'm not sure of any type of snow gun that's going to cover OL edge to edge.

The old guns would blow snow further out creating a more even surface to start with. Actually there are 2 pipes going up OL on either side of the trail. They haven't used the other side in years.

 

[AdironRider]

Its better to blow manmade in whales, let them drain, then push it around. You are actually arguing for something that makes the snow quality worse than they currently operate.

 

[Highway Star]

Its better to blow manmade in whales, let them drain, then push it around. You are actually arguing for something that makes the snow quality worse than they currently operate.

Seriously.....??????? Sorry, but you fail grooming 101.

 

[Highway Star]

shouldn't they be able to compensate for that by pushing the snow evenly throughout the trail?

I'm not sure of any type of snow gun that's going to cover OL edge to edge.

The new guns are horrific. Yes, they will spread the snow and it will be a slightly wider vertical skating rink than last week when they are done. If you want good snow surface, the snow has to be blown evenly on the trail, with minimal whales and grooming. Trust me, it will be vertical ice again next weekend.

Several types of guns have enough throw to make it most of the way across the trail, in fact, they had some there for the last 20 years.

 

[mountainman]

Its better to blow manmade in whales, let them drain, then push it around. You are actually arguing for something that makes the snow quality worse than they currently operate.

Yes and No. If done correctly yes the other no.

Seriously.....??????? Sorry, but you fail grooming 101.

Have you ever groomed or made snow before? Or just what you hear?

The new guns are horrific. Yes, they will spread the snow and it will be a slightly wider vertical skating rink than last week when they are done. If yo want good snow surface, the snow has to be blown evenly on the trail, with minimal whales and grooming. Trust me, it will be vertical ice again next weekend.

Several types of guns have enough throw to make it most of the way across the trail, in fact, they had some there for the last 20 years.

The K3000 gun was one of the best in temps below 22 degrees. They would make snow and had a very good throw to them. New HKD's are good in all temps, but do not have the throw to them. Tower guns less labor, ground guns more labor in making snow. Ground guns on a stand (Tripod) are labor intensive.

(Below) K3000 on a sled. This was a quick conversion. The sled use to have a Larchmont gun on it, but the worked. Sled was easy to move around for snowmaking and transporting it.

K3000 setup on a tower. This was another quick conversion, again this all so use to have a Larchmont gun on it. You had the power of a K3000 mounted on a tower and a boom to make snow with less labor.

Both were from the K's tower guns idea mounted on the snwomaking pipe. It was a start of an idea for tower guns.