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Sugarbush conditions?
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ReefBum
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There was an unexpected 5" on Sunday that freshened things up very nicely. Natural snow trails were still firm underneath new snow and technical depending on the run but they were in much better shape then before. They groomed Castlerock Run, Cotillion and Middle Earth Sat night so those skied great early, not sure how they held up this week, although they had another 2-3 inches last night/early today.
More options in woods but some spots were still technical from what I heard.
More options in woods but some spots were still technical from what I heard.
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twinplanx
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It was OK, just nothing to write home about. ;-) We picked up my 13 year old nephew along the way and he required lessons. Kinda cramped my style, but on a powder day he would of been SOL... Also Heavens Gate & Valley House were down on Saturday further complicating things. A few inches fell Saturday night into Sunday morning and even though it was basically dust on crust, it made a big difference. That and at least VH was back on line in the AM, Heavens Gate opened after lunch and by then the masses had departed. So all in all not a bad way to spend a weekend ;-)
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steamboat1
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That's F'd up.
What's going on up there?
Sat. was a beautiful day so it wasn't wind holds.
I was just a few miles south at Middlebury SB.
Edd
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Have the lift issues continued there since Win S. posted that explanation?
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twinplanx
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You would have to ask one of the regulars. I was only there for the weekend. Been a challenging season for them, I'd say...
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ReefBum
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The problem was due to heavy winds, which took out one of the wires on a tower at Heaven's Gate, causing an electrical issue.
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steamboat1
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There were no heavy winds on Sat. In fact I was in VT. most of last week & wind wasn't an issue all week.
ReefBum
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Not sure why no wind during the entire week is a relevant point.
What I passed along in terms of why the lift wasn't running was from Win's blog. I also heard the same thing from a lift ops guy. And I personally experienced gusty winds at the top of North Lynx on Saturday. You said in an earlier post that you were at Middlebury so I am not sure how you are qualified to comment on the wind when you were not even there.
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steamboat1
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Being Middlebury Snow Bowl & Sugarbush are only 13 miles apart as the crow flies I doubt there was any difference in weather.
Stowe and Bolton are even less. I'd never compare wind conditions between Stowe and Bolton.
really? you do realize they are on different sides of the green mountains? and what's the elevation at middlebury? wind issues are very localized and aspect dependent. while HG was on windhold, castlerock and the summit at mt ellen were not and the slidebrook express between the 2 mountains was also running.
On sunday they didnt get heavens gate running until 1 pm because of the wire issue and the valley house was down.
The conditions were great sunday. legitimate powder day. They reported 3" but there was double that up top. I got 4 runs of untouched powder on ripcord with face shots and all. The woods are totally in play. solid base in there now. Did a slidebrook run and that is in midseason form. couple of inches is all that is needed to freshen things up.
steamboat1
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What are you talking about? Both areas are in the central spine of the Green Mtns. 13 miles apart. Base elevation 1600, summit 2640 at Middlebury. There wasn't a breath of wind at Middlebury Sat. & yes Middlebury does have two exposures. What does Heavens Gate top out at? I figure 3800 since the chair doesn't go to the summit. Base is only 1300. Anyway who cares. Sugarbush has been having a lot of issues with their lifts this season, especially on weekends it seems.
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Heavens gate is on the east facing slope of the green mountains at about 4000'. whole different world from middlebury which is west of the spine. different temps, different wind, different snow. But thats not even the issue. like I said, the summit at mt ellen which is only 2 miles north was running at the same time. as was north lynx and castlerock. wind issues are very very localized and there are many factors that go into it.
Believe me, I was there and spoke to the lifties, who were standing around waiting for an all clear signal.
steamboat1
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Snow Bowl sits right about at the top of the gap. While the main base area is on the west side (barely) the Bailey's Fall lift base is on the east side of the gap. No wind on either lift.
twinplanx
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Steamboat, STFU. I was THERE. It was windy. You don't know everything...
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steamboat1
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No one asked you to read this thread so bug off. I would think naming a specific poster & telling them to STFU is a personal attack against that poster & against the TOS of this site. You could always put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say. I couldn't give a rats ass what you have to say.
I think you can handle it steamboat1. You've done plenty of name calling over the years on this site yourself.
Two people who were there chimed in and said the lift was windy. Are you calling them liars?
I can think of several examples of mountains that are equally as close as SnowB and SB and experience different wind patterns on the same day. Stowe and Bolton were two I already mentioned. Black and Wildcat. Black can be running it's lifts with no problems and have minimal winds and Wildcat's summit can be shut down with 80mph winds.
I get that SB has had it's problems this year, but maybe, just maybe this was a mother nature incident and not operator error like you seem to be alluding too.
Two people who were there chimed in and said the lift was windy. Are you calling them liars?
I can think of several examples of mountains that are equally as close as SnowB and SB and experience different wind patterns on the same day. Stowe and Bolton were two I already mentioned. Black and Wildcat. Black can be running it's lifts with no problems and have minimal winds and Wildcat's summit can be shut down with 80mph winds.
I get that SB has had it's problems this year, but maybe, just maybe this was a mother nature incident and not operator error like you seem to be alluding too.
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By your own numbers, the top of Heaven's Gate is almost 50% higher than the summit of Middlebury. You don't think that elevation difference could affect winds?
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