VAIL SUCKS

[thetrailboss]

Thats also cause this season has been so shit that they don’t even have hours for the full time people. They’re having instructors in lift ops and F&B…

Yeah, this season really has been a complete disaster. I feel so badly for the employees. Even though I am disappointed with the snow, I have still skied and I have made a point not to be an asshat to the employees. Just being nice has gone a long way. I have been very surprised by how friendly and helpful a lot of them have been in what has been a terrible season. The last time we had a bad season a lot of employees were really shit on and that trickled down to the guests. This year what I have been seeing has been a different tune--much to my surprise.

 

[BenedictGomez]

They’re having instructors in lift ops and F&B…

Didnt know that. Which means even if a ski instructor bumps lifts, they MUST wear the proper color coat.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Yeah, this season really has been a complete disaster. I feel so badly for the employees.

I've seen lots of Facebook and other Socials posts from J1's seeking odd jobs etc....

 

[ThatGuy]

I've seen lots of Facebook and other Socials posts from J1's seeking odd jobs etc....

The J1s have it better than most of the resort workers because their contract requires them to get at least 32 hours a week. But if theyre in a tipped position I’m sure the moneys not too good this season with the lack of people around.
Personally I don’t mind I’ve been busy with a new job and haven’t skied as much so selfishly am hoping this bad year plus last years strike and Sundance leaving makes PC a lot slower and cheaper next year.

 

[dB.cooper]

The J1s have it better than most of the resort workers because their contract requires them to get at least 32 hours a week. But if theyre in a tipped position I’m sure the moneys not too good this season with the lack of people around.
Personally I don’t mind I’ve been busy with a new job and haven’t skied as much so selfishly am hoping this bad year plus last years strike and Sundance leaving makes PC a lot slower and cheaper next year.

All employees make a base rate of $20hr, so if tipped employees end up under that rate, Vail makes up the difference.

 

[skef]

 

[thetrailboss]

You beat me to it.....

 

[thetrailboss]

"Hey guys. Check out my latest interview with POWDER Magazine! I am so EPICLY AWESOME!"

https://www.powder.com/news/vail-resorts-ceo-company-changed-skiing?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawQP42BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFjN3lGOE9nY1NPNGdlRUVUc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHs6OsVtUi8kjtjBWUIE11HwyPhaS42ENpeyWjoN2Nzf0L1VCtEvU_jotzaOB_aem_5jo7aGlusEEHyUju94oiuQ

 

[thetrailboss]

In all seriousness, that article is literally verbatim the WSJ interview. I find the timing very interesting--Rob comes out and reminds everyone about how he and Vail magically changed the industry more than a decade ago. I find it to be looking backwards rather than forwards. Yes, EPIC was a revolutionary idea, but that was more than a decade ago. Now sales are declining. It is time to evolve. Instead, Vail brings Rob back and he is reminiscing about how awesome he was. Seems very odd.

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Expect we will get next year’s Epic Pass announcement this week. Last one came on March 4 2025

 

[drjeff]

Expect we will get next year’s Epic Pass announcement this week. Last one came on March 4 2025

Next years passes just dropped today. Very similar to last years pricing wise, except that for the 13-30yr old age demographic they're dropping the price of the full Epic and Epic local by 20%

 

[jaytrem]

Next years passes just dropped today. Very similar to last years pricing wise, except that for the 13-30yr old age demographic they're dropping the price of the full Epic and Epic local by 20%

They're actually raising it for 13-17 for Local. Last year I paid $633 for the teen Local, the new price is $649. Not sure what the Teen full Epic was last year, but it is now $869.

 

[thetrailboss]

Next years passes just dropped today. Very similar to last years pricing wise, except that for the 13-30yr old age demographic they're dropping the price of the full Epic and Epic local by 20%

Yep. Just saw that as well.

As for Epic, Vail Resorts is offering a 20-percent discount for Gen Z—skiers between 13 and 30 years old—for the 2026-'27 season. This drops the cost of the full Epic Pass to $869 from last year's $1,051 for that age group. Not too shabby.

 

[BenedictGomez]

They promised investors they'd raise prices in excess of inflation, which they did, but not by all that much, which speaks volumes IMHO.

 

[deadheadskier]

Doesn't surprise me that the Gen Z age group is getting a big bone thrown their way. People in their 20s often tend to be anti-corporate. So, if Vail can make an offer they can't refuse and get them hooked, perhaps they stick around when they age into parenthood.

 

[thetrailboss]

Doesn't surprise me that the Gen Z age group is getting a big bone thrown their way. People in their 20s often tend to be anti-corporate. So, if Vail can make an offer they can't refuse and get them hooked, perhaps they stick around when they age into parenthood.

"How did you know my plan? Hey, I hear that you worked in Food and Bev once. I might have an EPIC job offer for you in Management!"

 

[jimmywilson69]

DHS for Wildcat GM!!!

 

[deadheadskier]

Haha

The one thing I learned working in the ski business? If you want to ski a lot, don't take a management job in the ski business. The two years I did it, were my lowest day counts as an adult.

I'd also probably get arrested for punching Katz in the balls after he told me the annual snowmaking budget for Wildcat.