Any body know anything about Hunter???

[catskillman]

so Hunter got a ton of rain last night. They opened an hour late today, understandable - as they groomed all night and into the morning. As time went on and the 6 was not open yet the crowd got a bit angry (mainly 4 obnoxious guys) and ws yelling on poor lift attendants, some guy in a black jacket and then a ski patrol guy was attempting to explain the conditions and what trails would be open.
Those people do not deserve to be abused like that. There is nothing they can do. The complaints need to go to Vail Mgt and Mother Nature not some poor $15 an hour guy or a patrol vollunteer!
And these same people most likely do not understand why the mountain cannot find people to do these jobs. Who want to do that job anyway, and then on top of everything they have to be abused........

 

[IceEidolon]

Those Minimum Vail Wage people on the front lines may not be quite up to $15/hr yet, as Vail applied its company wide minimum wage very selectively and the recent raises may not have pushed everyone over the line.

I agree that anyone who wears ski boots or a parka all day doesn't deserve the blame or the viritol for Vail's failings nor for the weather.

 

[catskillman]

Those Minimum Vail Wage people on the front lines may not be quite up to $15/hr yet, as Vail applied its company wide minimum wage very selectively and the recent raises may not have pushed everyone over the line.

I agree that anyone who wears ski boots or a parka all day doesn't deserve the blame or the viritol for Vail's failings nor for the weather.

agree. and some of the foreign workers at hunter, work the lifts etc. all day and then go to the hotel and work to at least 10pm doing dishes, maintenance etc.... They have classmates, firinds etc. working at non vail resorts that have much better everything...they will not be back at Hunter when they can posssibly go elsewhere next year. Other Vail resorts are also better in so so many many ways. Where would you go - Hunter, Heavenaly, Vail...etc...If you could not get a non Fail Vail resort.

 

[skiur]

so Hunter got a ton of rain last night. They opened an hour late today, understandable - as they groomed all night and into the morning. As time went on and the 6 was not open yet the crowd got a bit angry (mainly 4 obnoxious guys) and ws yelling on poor lift attendants, some guy in a black jacket and then a ski patrol guy was attempting to explain the conditions and what trails would be open.
Those people do not deserve to be abused like that. There is nothing they can do. The complaints need to go to Vail Mgt and Mother Nature not some poor $15 an hour guy or a patrol vollunteer!
And these same people most likely do not understand why the mountain cannot find people to do these jobs. Who want to do that job anyway, and then on top of everything they have to be abused........

While I agree that these bottom of the totem pole employees dont deserve to get that crap, complaining to Vail management seems to be pretty useless. It's a lose lose situation.

 

[Funky_Catskills]

Guns are on. Expecting a foot of snow tonight.
Be nice to employees for sure. My buddy is a groomer at HM. He's taking some sh|t - but he's just doing his job. And he does a great job!

 

[jimmywilson69]

Who's giving a groomer shit? Whoever is doing that is an asshole

 

[IceEidolon]

In a lot of cases where the public gripes about grooming conditions, the root cause or one root cause is planning and management. If they aren't given time for fresh snowmaking to cure (or if the snowmaking team is told to make base snow instead of conditioning snow), or if there isn't time/enough machines to properly rework a bad trail, etc.

It's also possible for a careless/tired/no fucks given operator to turn in a bad product. Inexperienced operators I put down to management on a lack of training. From a guest perspective it's not easy to tell the difference.

 

[catskillman]

Guns are on. Expecting a foot of snow tonight.
Be nice to employees for sure. My buddy is a groomer at HM. He's taking some sh|t - but he's just doing his job. And he does a great job!

hard to imagine - what are they doing going 90 minutes early, as suggested on that crazy video the mountain had that poor man do, and getting them as they pull in in the morning, and yelling at them? That is crazy.

Apparently your buddy is not assigned to the middle entrance of Minya, or other choice unsafe spots I have seen recently. I am not 100% for grooming everything, but it should be safe and there have been a lot of "ledges" and huge balls of snow / ice in the trails that we never used to see before.

Hope they pay him well - crazy hours and probably not the safest job....

 

[catskillman]

In a lot of cases where the public gripes about grooming conditions, the root cause or one root cause is planning and management. If they aren't given time for fresh snowmaking to cure (or if the snowmaking team is told to make base snow instead of conditioning snow), or if there isn't time/enough machines to properly rework a bad trail, etc.

It's also possible for a careless/tired/no fucks given operator to turn in a bad product. Inexperienced operators I put down to management on a lack of training. From a guest perspective it's not easy to tell the difference.

agree on the training. And I think it depends on when they groom, if they do it right after the mountain closes or in the morining before it opens. Hunter seems to be doing it before opening lately, which I think would be better in most cases...

 

[Funky_Catskills]

Who's giving a groomer shit? Whoever is doing that is an asshole

Things are getting ugly with Hunter so called "regulars" - it doesn't surprise me.
The things I read are pretty vitriolic and downright nasty. People just doing their jobs in the most entitled sport in the world.

 

[Funky_Catskills]

Hope they pay him well - crazy hours and probably not the safest job....

Pretty sure he knows that - winch cats are no joke.

 

[urungus]

the most entitled sport in the world.

What about equestrian or pheasant shooting ?

 

[Hastur]

Polo and fox hunting

 

[Funky_Catskills]

But not curling

 

[IceEidolon]

What about equestrian or pheasant shooting ?

That depends on which equestrians you're shooting.

 

[Funky_Catskills]

It was dumping like a mutha f'er here in Hunter.
Guessing 10" in my yard right now. Sound sounds like it's turning to ice a little - 23 degrees outside.
Current status - clearing work calendar for the afternoon.

 

[catskillman]

It was dumping like a mutha f'er here in Hunter.
Guessing 10" in my yard right now. Sound sounds like it's turning to ice a little - 23 degrees outside.
Current status - clearing work calendar for the afternoon.

could you get into the north lot? 6 pack was down again - and again it was tower 13 !!

 

[Kingslug20]

Tower 13...unlucky tower...

 

[Funky_Catskills]

North Lot was open

 

[So Inclined]

could you get into the north lot? 6 pack was down again - and again it was tower 13 !!

Official word was that 6 pack was down through the morning because of the wind. Seemed legit from what I saw and felt taking the B-F route to the top (and then swiftly over to the north, which was fairly sheltered from the wind.)