• Welcome to AlpineZone, the largest online community of skiers and snowboarders in the Northeast!

    You may have to REGISTER before you can post. Registering is FREE, gets rid of the majority of advertisements, and lets you participate in giveaways and other AlpineZone events!

Balsams Wilderness

drjeff

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
19,537
Points
113
Location
Brooklyn, CT
The thing about the Balsams, is that it really was almost its own culture, and a culture that unless you've experienced 1st hand, it's tough to fully grasp. I know there's some AZ folks who have been there in the winter (myself included) and it's possible to get a bit of what the special, oldtime, almost a bit eclectic vibe that the place has, but compared to what the summer experience was there, the winter one is minor. My family courtesy of my grandparents, had 5 family summer reunions there, and some of it's distinct charm and ambience had to do not necessarily with what it had, but with what it didn't have. No TV's in the rooms, no air conditioners, no wifi, just a setting that allowed one to relax, and if in the case of my family (and many other familes too) get to spend some quality time together. Very often in the various sitting areas/pubs that they have in the main hotel, or down by the pool or even up at the Panorama Golf Course clubhouse, you'd talk to other people there and find out that this was their families 5th, 10th, 15th + trip back to The Balsams, almost always at the same week of the summer. It was that type of place where even though on the outside it seemed to be lacking many modern ammenities we've all come to take for granted, it offered so much more than any modern hotel could.

Then with the reopening of the Mountain View Grand and the "modernizing" of The Mount Washington Hotel, and even to some extent places such as the Sagamore on Lake George in NY, the idea that you could still have a "classic" early 1900's "Grand" hotel, but tastefully add in modern features really started to appeal to more and more people, some of those at the expense of longtime Balsam's guests.

I sincerely hope the new owners of the Balsams and their plan works out, since it really is a special place. At the same point I can totally see how especially with the locals there's a bunch of skepticism around them, since it's a HUGE change for an employer that when up and running is a MAJOR employer in that region. I look forward to hopefully upon completion making the drive back upto the Notch and hearing the doorman say "Welcome Back!" as they open the door of my car and then handing me a small bottle of NH maple syrup as they do(or atleast the old owners did) for any returning guest upon their arrival
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
This is not Three Mile Island

1:37 AM WED MAY 23, 2012
Colebrook Planning Board Resolves Concern Over Balsams Tract
NH Public Radio

The Colebrook Planning Board Tuesday night removed what the new owners of the Balsams Grand Resort have said was an impediment to the redevelopment needed to allow hundreds of people to get back to work.
...
The issue was a 28-acre parcel the owners wanted separated from the rest of the property because for decades about two acres of it had been used as a dump.
...
That prompted the new owners, Dan Hebert and Dan Dagesse, to issue a news release complaining that the Planning Board was needlessly holding up renovation of the facility.
...
...
But the Planning Board members said they were just trying to make sure they fulfilled their duty to protect the town.
...
“The data don’t suggest there is a huge problem here,” Warzocha said. “This is not Three-Mile Island.”
...
He said there is a ground-water quality violation but it is barely over the limit.
...
The board voted unanimously to approve the subdivision contingent on another approval Thursday night by the Coos County Planning Board.
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
Latex Manufacturing To Resume in North Country

7:10 PM MON MAY 21, 2012
NHPR

In some good news for the North Country an old family business is coming back to life. NHPR’s Chris Jensen reports.

Starting in 1931 Neil Tillotson made his fortune manufacturing natural latex products including balloons and later gloves.

That allowed him to purchase the Balsams Grand Resort.

Tillotson died in 2001 and a latex plant located near the resort closed in 2010.

But Tillotson’s son, Rick, purchased the equipment and recently bought a 103,000 square foot building in Colebrook.

He plans to use part of it to make latex products there and hopes to open later this year.
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
Auction goods hit the streets

Auction stuff is showing up on eBay
Prices seem a little outrageous.

$(KGrHqZ,!hQE+!WZ0yiRBPylzZrriw~~60_57.JPG


$20 for this sign. Seriously?

$(KGrHqZ,!jYE-cigm2+JBPuDIQZsb!~~60_57.JPG
 
Last edited:

bobbutts

New member
Joined
Mar 18, 2007
Messages
1,560
Points
0
Location
New Hampshire
This seller has 0 feedback and insane prices. I'm guessing they never sell or don't until the prices drop significantly.

balsams.jpg
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
Me thinks the seller has the notion that the affluent clientele will yearn for a memory of the past and pay any price. Misguided rationale.
He probably picked them up for $10 a dozen.
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
Balsams lawsuit ouster sought

By KRISTI GAROFALO
Union Leader Correspondent

DIXVILLE — A judge will hear motions next week to dismiss a lawsuit blamed for further delaying efforts to finance renovations to the Balsams Grand Hotel and Resort, which has been closed since new owners took it over last December.

According to his blog, Martin sued “to undo (the) sale of New Hampshire's landmark hotel, The Balsams, which was turned over to real estate speculators as part of a plan to destroy the property.”

 

bumpster

New member
Joined
Dec 12, 2012
Messages
1
Points
0
OPM Stock Options - Balsams View - Hurry

Yeah okay,

Janine's long lost second sister from a worn out illegal mailing list from 1984.

Spare me. The Union Leader no longer has any leadership components within it's soul.

It isn't possible.

It would first have to have a soul.

Or some training other than a high school field trip to Middlebury.

I'm sorry.

Maybe it's just that I love Janeane Garofalo too much to appreciate the net worth of this, okay yeah sure fine whatever, journalism.

Meanwhile nobody asks why Andy Martin never went after the wind farm land grab, you silly lemmings.
 
Last edited:

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
The latest on Balsams. Not much new to report
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130219/NEWS02/130219084

"...But the $2.3 million purchase price looks like small change next to the needed construction funding Tranchemontagne pegs at "north of $30 million."
...

But they won't discuss their plans publicly unless it can't be avoided, such as on the couple of occasions they've been called on to provide answers at public hearings. On Feb. 26, they or their representatives will meet with the Coos County Planning Board to apply for a construction permit.
...
Right now, work at the site off Route 26 is largely clearing away debris left by the demolition work that's been necessary to prepare the site for construction.

 

ScottySkis

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 16, 2011
Messages
12,294
Points
48
Location
Middletown NY
The latest on Balsams. Not much new to report
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130219/NEWS02/130219084

"...But the $2.3 million purchase price looks like small change next to the needed construction funding Tranchemontagne pegs at "north of $30 million."
...

But they won't discuss their plans publicly unless it can't be avoided, such as on the couple of occasions they've been called on to provide answers at public hearings. On Feb. 26, they or their representatives will meet with the Coos County Planning Board to apply for a construction permit.
...
Right now, work at the site off Route 26 is largely clearing away debris left by the demolition work that's been necessary to prepare the site for construction.


Sorry Billski I know how much you love the place. Hopefully they get it back together soon.:thumbdown:
 

ScottySkis

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 16, 2011
Messages
12,294
Points
48
Location
Middletown NY
Not sure I understand your comment. Lots of people love Magic for many of the same reasons. I suspect there are those who never take the drive north. Do we really need another NELSAP?

I want to see them open, I thought they were closed, and I was about that and hope the are operating soon is all I meant
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
More Details On Balsams Renovation And A Step Forward


...
Originally the complex had about 400,000 square feet.
Hebert said about 123,000 of that is being retained. About 80,000 square feet will be added.
...



Hebert says that a new biomass heating system will use wood from the Balsams. It will cost $100,000 a year to heat the complex compared to $1 million a year before.

Tuesday night the planning board gave its overall approval to the complex renovation even though the plans are incomplete.


In an unusual move the board agreed to have the plans scrutinized and given final approval as they are completed, with reviews from experts including the state fire marshal.


That strategy solved a serious problem for the owners who risked missing an April deadline to apply for federal tax credits and could not do so without an okay from the planning board.

...
Once construction begins the project is expected to take about 18 months to finish.

More plus project rendering
 

St. Bear

New member
Joined
Dec 22, 2008
Messages
2,946
Points
0
Location
Washington, NJ
Website
twitter.com
NH keeps trying to pass gambling, the Balsams would be the perfect place for a casino. Historic "name" hotel, area in need of jobs and economy, and year round activities. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
Union Leader Oct 13

ERROL — It’s been nearly two years since a pair of North Country businessmen succeeded in buying the closed Balsams Grand Resort and Hotel in Dixville Notch for $2.3 million, promising to restore the landmark property and return the hotel and large dining room to their former grandeur.

But The Balsams remains shuttered, and the new owners’ May 2012 auction emptied it of everything from dinner plates to ski-lift chairs. Some pre-construction demolition has taken place, but owners Dan Hebert and Dan Dagesse and the company they formed, Balsams View LLC, seem no closer to achieving their goal to return large-scale seasonal employment to Coos County.

Hebert and Dagesse do not return phone calls and seldom talk publicly about their plans unless required by the permitting process to do so.

...
“The Balsams never made money. It lost $5 million a year. Mr. Tillotson ran it as a hobby. It didn’t work (financially) for 50 years, what makes them think it’ll work now?”

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20131014/NEWS02/131019657/0/SEARCH
 
Top