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VTKilarney
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I'm not only missing the pages everyone is missing, but I also stopped clicking on this thread a hundred pages ago. So I'm a little lost.
from_the_NEK
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This about sums it up...
MEtoVTSkier
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...with matching dartboard...
So what we're saying is, sitting on my couch I may have come up with a more successful marketing ploy than the "look at our empty mountain" cell phone videos set to techno? lol
Everyone is happy!!!! There's nothing to see here.......the more I think about it, the more I think we are looking at Q-Sochi-East......
I would hope a competent contractor would take into account that it might get cold one or two days in the Northeast Kindom over the course of the winter, and incorporate that loss of productivity into thier schedule. Do you really think this factwould not have been adjusted for in the planning?? :smash:
I have heard now from several people working on the project that the project on a whole is a few months behind schedule - this should not be a surprise to anyone - when your contractors are working in crappy weather on a weekend your probably not ahead a schedule. What will be interesting is how they try to spin the fact that they were publically puttting out there months ago that they are well ahead of schedule when the hotel does not open on time
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VTKilarney
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That's the reason I brought it up. If you look at the timetable in the document I posted, there doesn't appear to be much room for delay. There is work scheduled to be going on right up on the heels of opening day - and that's if everything goes according to schedule.
Can someone remind me when was the targeted original opening day for the Qhotel? Wasn't it in time for 2015-2016 ski season?
Given the fact that it is not uncommon to run into cost and time overruns in a large construction project in even the most hospitable conditions, what is the chance of significant investment/improvement in snow making over the summer of 2015 in time for next winter? While I understand the Qhotel is QEB-5 funded......are the inevitable cost overruns also factored into the EB-5 funding or will they be reaching into other Qcoffers.....?
Is there an increasing chance that there is a Sochi-like partial hotel opening in December 2015 combined with the same snow making which has driven passholders to semi-mutiny this season?
Given the fact that it is not uncommon to run into cost and time overruns in a large construction project in even the most hospitable conditions, what is the chance of significant investment/improvement in snow making over the summer of 2015 in time for next winter? While I understand the Qhotel is QEB-5 funded......are the inevitable cost overruns also factored into the EB-5 funding or will they be reaching into other Qcoffers.....?
Is there an increasing chance that there is a Sochi-like partial hotel opening in December 2015 combined with the same snow making which has driven passholders to semi-mutiny this season?
VTKilarney
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The originally planned opening date was December 2014. That obviously didn't happen. The anticipated opening date now is December 2015.
I don't think that Burke can afford both a hotel delay and a lack of meaningful snowmaking improvements next year. But they may not care, either.
I don't think that Burke can afford both a hotel delay and a lack of meaningful snowmaking improvements next year. But they may not care, either.
VTKilarney
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From Q Burke's snow report for today:
The snow condition is primarily packed powder over powder.
The snow condition is primarily packed powder over powder.
The other thing in the back of my mind with the hotel is......summer bookings. I'm sure they will get their share of summer guests, but, the MTB crowd (the primary draw) tend to enjoy the camping, campfire social time, communal nature of campground "lodging" etc. and we have a bunch of sweaty smelly muddy gear to deal with. While I'm sure some will enjoy the hotel.......it isn't an exact fit with the common MTB "scene".....especially for families....
I guess we will have to wait until 2016 to find out....
fbrissette
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Packed powder over powder... Somehow the laws of physics cease to exist at Qburke.
I have never seen ski conditions described as that - probably b/c it makes no sense
the need to accommodate MTBs was brought up in the early, early "planning" stages for the hotel. but with the rush to get EB-5 funding underway, a decision was made to not develop a new plan, based on the market–requiring a lot of time and money–and rework the materials on hand. hence, the Tram Haus doublewide
from_the_NEK
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Packed powder over frozen granular is probably more accurate.
from_the_NEK
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Oh and 142 left!
And that falls right in line with the decision making process that has defined this ownership group. I maintain they still have no idea who their customer is and what they want and what is important to them. The hotel is answering a question no one has asked......
We will know that very soon- if they do not develop any of the ancillary facilities (pool building, tennis, building, indoor biking building, gold, WHATEVER) they will fail. I love the NEK, but for many months of the year it is very, very quiet and can be pretty grey. Why would I stay in the new hotel (no doubt at a premium $) to ride the MTB trails? There is plenty of room at the Comfort Inn. You need to create a market as opposed to try to serve a market that is already well served.
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