The activity will be Techno Karaoke Night at the Yurt that will no doubt replace MidBurke with your DJ Mini Q and friends!
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Big Burke announcement
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The activity will be Techno Karaoke Night at the Yurt that will no doubt replace MidBurke with your DJ Mini Q and friends!
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BenedictGomez
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There's Powder in them thar' hills, but ya gotta' DIG for it!
BenedictGomez
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We have 3000+ posts in this thread without the blunt, brutal, cold hard truth, so here it is.
Burke is doomed to fail no matter what, Q or sans-Q.
As far as I know, Burke has never been sustainably profitable, and it never will be due to its' location, demographics, and surrounding competition. The miracle of "free money" via EB-5 buys it some time, but Burke's only real hope for survival is RPT, which is essentially what has gotten it this far.
*Rich Person's Toy
VTKilarney
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But BMA is always a wild card. I have been hearing, however, rumors that BMA is looking at other location options. Cannon would no doubt be appealing. I have no faith in the rumors that I've heard, however.
Oddly enough, I have a feeling that Q-Jr would love to get rid of BMA. Let's hope my instinct is incorrect.
No, the Emporer is wearing qlothes!
I think that Burke could be sustainable if Kingdom Trails were to get into the alpine skiing business. Having a unified organization offering mountain biking, cross-country skiing, alpine skiing, and snowshoeing would be amazing. That be a true all-season resort desination. Imagine a season pass that covered all activities?
I fear that Q's crazed logic is push out BMA and take their land to build whatever. How stupid, how stupid, how stupid.
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These rumors are false and are a pile of hot, steaming sh!t. Stop posting this ludicrous stuff. You are looking to incite something that is not there, AT ALL.
Obviously time will tell, and heck based on history it is hard to make a case for the trend changing especially given the debacle of a start this management team is off to.
That being said, I think the one thing Burke has going for it this time vs. the others is a true 3 season resort (no one will be there in April-Mid May....mud season) potential with the mountain biking scene. Sure nearly every damn ski mountain in New England is trying to get in on the lift served downhill biking scene, but Burke has the added attraction of Kingdom Trails (Top 5 trails system in the country.....COUNTRY!!). That is a huge positive......
Now here is the biggest head scratcher to all that.....that Hotel just drastically increased their operating expenses just to be "open" for a week/weekend......if they were just developing the resort (ie.snow making infrastructure, downhill MTB trails, better lifts, better food, etc.) chances are the 3 season revenue might have a chance to throw some actual cash to the bottom line. Add in that huge hotel and the operating expense of it.....I think the math gets fuzzy, and it isn't a hard proforma to build on this either.....
Sure, build a aquatic center, bike park, tennis center etc. and they might bring in some incremental folks....but they also just jacked up the operating expenses a bunch again, staffing, utilities, maintenance, insurance (those aren't low insurance businesses).....will the incremental visits cover that expense increase plus throw coin to the bottom line?......
If you can say, has Q met his obligations to BMA for snowmaking and trail availability? If you can't say, I understand.
VTKilarney
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Didn't I say that I put no faith in those rumors? I wouldn't have said that if I was looking to incite something.
The issue is that people have the perception that BMA is exploring options. That's not good at all.
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SkiRaceParent
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I'm correcting them. Feel free to let them know they're full of sh!t and stop spreading false rumors.
whiskey jack
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Agreed. They will be pulling off the upper training hill tomorrow. Trail will be groomed out for the weekend. Did they meet the deadline? no, but it was close.
from_the_NEK
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How I sometimes picture VTKilarney as he makes his way around the lodge...
VTKilarney
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Honestly, I go out of my way to NOT get involved in that talk outside of this forum. When I'm not participating here, I'm just way too busy to be distracted by what is going on at Burke. Working 14 hour days for the past couple of weeks will do that to you. Okay... they would probably be 13.5 hour days if I didn't pop up here during the day. I usually check in as I move from one project to the next.
I'm not kidding when I say that it has permeated well behind the skiing crowd. It's not spoken about just about everywhere I go.
How I sometimes picture VTKilarney as he makes his way around the lodge...
Is he the Blond or the Brunette? Because I think the brunette has one fo my bass fishing lures in her ear and I need it back.....
Glad the BMA rumor is BS.....with the announcement of the US Ski team using Cannon/Mittersill etc. it almost seems plausible.....
+ 1. I hope that Q understands the value of BMA to the mountain.
FWIW Burke just posted on FB that they are selling 14-15 season passes for $699 this weekend. :blink:
I was waiting for someone to post that......lol
Here's a question I don't know the answer to......the "On the Snow" report shows the snow depth on Burke as "Upper 24 Packed Powder" and "Middle 0" " and "Lower as 6" Machine Groomed".......can someone explain the "Middle 0" to me.....
If I had to guess someone messed up on that snow report.
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