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No doubt, it makes me nervous. Historically, deep pockets have come to the rescue. Now they have to be REALLY deep. What ever happened to "we're getting the Sochi snowmaking gurus"?


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One has to wonder if fix and flip is the play here.

For all the bravado about how great they are at business they've made a lot of bad decisions here.

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I've heard from a very good authority that there is no way they are opening for the weekend of the 19th and they know it. Yet they are purposely bullshitting by insisting this is the planned on date. Apparently they need to fix the upper mountain now. There is just too much to do. It's turned into a game of whack a mole.
 
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I've heard from a very good authority that there is no way they are opening for the weekend of the 19th and they know it. Yet they are purposely bullshitting by insisting this is the planned on date. Apparently they need to fix the upper mountain now. There is just too much to do. It's turned into a game of whack a mole.

So you're saying they lost too much snow?


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So you're saying they lost too much snow?


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I was told that they lost too much. They don't have enough to push out and sufficiently cover the trail with. They only made the bare minimum before moving on. That wasn't enough.

The annoying thing is that they are giving people false hope.
 

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I was told that they lost too much. They don't have enough to push out and sufficiently cover the trail with. They only made the bare minimum before moving on. That wasn't enough.

The annoying thing is that they are giving people false hope.

And how many times can they move the date before people say "to hell with you"......

BTW, what is the refund policy on season passes......assume you are stuck with them.....right?
 

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The webcam picture is pretty ugly. There isn't a single snowflake in the vicinity of the Mid-Burke Express. So not only do they need to finish Warren's Way and refresh the upper part of the mountain, but they also need to make snow so people can get to the chair lift. There is definitely a lot of work left to be done.

And once that less than ideal top-to-bottom run is open, they will likely turn their back on the main mountain so they can get the J-Bar and lower mountain open.

Cold weather can't come soon enough!
 

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BTW, what is the refund policy on season passes......assume you are stuck with them.....right?
I'm sure that people are stuck with them. I've said before that it would be a REAL good gesture to allow skiing at Jay Peak until Burke opens. But this good-will is obviously not happening. You will ski when Mother Nature tells Ary that it's time to ski - and not one day sooner.
 

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Out of curiosity, when do you all start voting with your wallets?

In asking that I'm not suggesting to stop the criticism; it's all well warranted.

When Wildcat was going through similar challenges and giving lame excuses, I took a year off and skied elsewhere until they proved themselves.

At some point many of you should switch to Cannon or Bretton Woods for a season
 

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As Long as Wilcat and others keep posting pics like this:

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While Burke looks like a pile of Mud and grass like this.....

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There will be some angry folks......and very little bump to the winter economy in East Burke....
 

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Understandably angry as I said. I just eventually get tired of it and spend my money where I am more pleased with the product.
 

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Understandably angry as I said. I just eventually get tired of it and spend my money where I am more pleased with the product.

Good point but when you live really close to your home-mountain, commuting to and from the next closest mountain isn't an option when you get a couple free hours to make some turns. If you were a weekend warrior, then maybe. They have got the local short-session skiers by the sack.
 

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Good point but when you live really close to your home-mountain, commuting to and from the next closest mountain isn't an option when you get a couple free hours to make some turns. If you were a weekend warrior, then maybe. They have got the local short-session skiers by the sack.
You hit the nail on the head. It's easy to vote with your wallet when you live a couple of hours away from the mountain. I would gladly switch to Cannon, and thought very long and hard about doing so. The deal breaker for me was that my children's friends all ski at Burke. The same can be said for my friends. Many of them live 10 minutes from Burke, but about 40 minutes from Cannon, so they aren't about to switch. I guess I picked the wrong friends. :dontknow:
 

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Today's snow report says that they are still shooting for opening on the weekend of the 19th, but they aren't sure whether it will be Saturday or Sunday. My guess is that they see some snowmaking opportunities just prior to that weekend so they are hoping to be able to sneak in under the wire. Again, my source tells me that while this may be their hope, absent a radical change to the forecast they know darn well that it's a pipe dream.
 

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To each their own, but given what's going on up there, it would be a fairly easy decision for me to make the switch to Cannon with those drive times. I'd imagine you wouldn't be the only family in your area making that choice and your kids would still likely have some friends to ski with.
 

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Burke Mountain seen from Darling Hill Rd at 7:45 AM.

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You hit the nail on the head. It's easy to vote with your wallet when you live a couple of hours away from the mountain. I would gladly switch to Cannon, and thought very long and hard about doing so. The deal breaker for me was that my children's friends all ski at Burke. The same can be said for my friends. Many of them live 10 minutes from Burke, but about 40 minutes from Cannon, so they aren't about to switch. I guess I picked the wrong friends. :dontknow:

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I'm not quite sure what your point is. Am I not supposed to think about relevant factors when I decide where to ski? I see lots of skiing discussion in this skiing forum. Pretty much any consideration about skiing could be categorized as a first world problem. So I'm not sure why you felt the need to single my particular comment out of thousands of others - unless you merely intended to be antagonistic.
 

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I'm not quite sure what your point is. Am I not supposed to think about relevant factors when I decide where to ski? I see lots of skiing discussion in this skiing forum. Pretty much any consideration about skiing could be categorized as a first world problem. So I'm not sure why you felt the need to single my particular comment out of thousands of others - unless you merely intended to be antagonistic.

Was your humor-ectomy considered elective surgery?
 

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Was your humor-ectomy considered elective surgery?
Sorry. It just didn't come across that way - especially since it came out of nowhere in a discussion that you weren't partaking in. I guess I'll look again and try to find the humor in it.
 
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