VTKilarney
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One correction. Quiros allegedly bought a larger piece of property for $3 million and sold a small piece of it for $6 million.
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One correction. Quiros allegedly bought a larger piece of property for $3 million and sold a small piece of it for $6 million.
mbedle
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Not sure about the sale of the property for 6 million. Still listed as being owned by him/his company at a purchase price of 3,150,000 in 2011. Nothing in the records after that. Decent amount of work has been done on the property since 2011.
VTKilarney
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I know that the state intervened regarding the sale of the property. I'm not sure at what stage, though. I recall reading that they demanded an independent appraisal. It was widely reported that the sale price for the smaller piece was $6 million after he had purchased the larger piece for $3 million.
VTKilarney
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Well, my source was indeed correct. The top of the mountain needs fixing. Here is the latest report:
Well, it's no secret New England is experiencing a weather roller coaster and Q Burke is hanging on tight. The good news is, the extended forecast looks favorable with temperatures finally feeling like they belong in December. With that being said, it will be a stretch to open Friday, December 18th and realistically, we are looking at opening to the public that Saturday (19th), Sunday (20th), or even early the next week.
Once the temperatures drop (and the forecast suggests they should drop by Wednesday evening), we will run as much as possible on Lower Warren's Way to get BMA online. Once we are able to open the POMA lift, we will move back to Upper/Lower Willoughby, Upper Bear Den and Midway to get one trail open off of the summit.
I applaud them for communicating, even if they are being somewhat optimistic. It appears to me that the opening will be a POMA opening only. It looks like it will be a race to see if they can get a trail open off of the Mid-Burke Express in time for Christmas.
Well, it's no secret New England is experiencing a weather roller coaster and Q Burke is hanging on tight. The good news is, the extended forecast looks favorable with temperatures finally feeling like they belong in December. With that being said, it will be a stretch to open Friday, December 18th and realistically, we are looking at opening to the public that Saturday (19th), Sunday (20th), or even early the next week.
Once the temperatures drop (and the forecast suggests they should drop by Wednesday evening), we will run as much as possible on Lower Warren's Way to get BMA online. Once we are able to open the POMA lift, we will move back to Upper/Lower Willoughby, Upper Bear Den and Midway to get one trail open off of the summit.
I applaud them for communicating, even if they are being somewhat optimistic. It appears to me that the opening will be a POMA opening only. It looks like it will be a race to see if they can get a trail open off of the Mid-Burke Express in time for Christmas.
Smellytele
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latest email:
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| Well, it's no secret New England is experiencing a weather roller coaster and Q Burke is hanging on tight. The good news is, the extended forecast looks favorable with temperatures finally feeling like they belong in December. With that being said, it will be a stretch to open Friday, December 18th and realistically, we are looking at opening to the public that Saturday (19th), Sunday (20th), or even early the next week. Once the temperatures drop (and the forecast suggests they should drop by Wednesday evening), we will run as much as possible on Lower Warren's Way to get BMA online. Once we are able to open the POMA lift, we will move back to Upper/Lower Willoughby, Upper Bear Den and Midway to get one trail open off of the summit. We encourage everyone to attend our Season Pass Holder meeting scheduled for next Saturday, December 19th where we will give updates for the season, continued plan for snow making, and answer any questions. If we are open for skiing/riding, plan is to have the meeting in the Mid Burke Lodge at 5pm. If we are not open, we will have it at 10am in the Kingdom Room. 12 Deals of Christmas begin this Sunday, December 11th. Deals include savings on lift ticket packs, gift cards, learn to ski / ride packages, private lessons, and retail. Click here for complete details on all available deals and their applicable offer date(s). Come out and support Northwoods Stewardship Center this Sunday as we host their annual fundraising event upstairs in the Tamarack. Festivities begin at 4:30 with live music by the Ira Friedman Trio. Lots of activities planned for the month of December including:
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mbedle
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I remember reading that also, just not sure how reliable the source was. ITs odd that so much work is occurring at the property, but it is still listed as being owned by one of his companies. Plus, the AncBio facility is marketed as being a 25 acre campus, the same size as the property Quiros purchased.
VTKilarney
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How much work is going on at the property? I thought that there was some earth moving, but not much more. But I really haven't seen it.
VTKilarney
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If that's the case, this would kill their lesson sales. They really need to get the lesson hill open, but it takes a lot of snow to do that.
I don't think that they will get the park open first on the lower mountain. It takes a LOT of snow to get the park open, and I can see a lot of people being pissed off if only the park is open.
But the bottom line is that I really don't know what they are going to do. The only thing I know is that no matter what they are going to do, they are going to have to sacrifice something else. I mentioned earlier that my inside source said that it's a game of whack-a-mole at this point. This seems to be a very accurate description.
Whack a mole it is- under "normal" circumstances I would recommend that they call the equipment rental lads for 2 compressors and get the cross plumbing sorted out over the next 7 warms days. BUT so what if you have more air if you are marginal on water?
like I said, a grim picture. I bet a certain gentleman who loves the mountain dearly, and has done much to keep it alive, is very glad that neither he nor his friends own it right now.
like I said, a grim picture. I bet a certain gentleman who loves the mountain dearly, and has done much to keep it alive, is very glad that neither he nor his friends own it right now.
VTKilarney
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A couple more thoughts:
1) Does the forecast really say that temperatures will drop off on Wednesday? That's not what I'm seeing.
2) This illustrates just how bad the snowmaking situation is at Q Burke. Depsite making snow for weeks, the best they will be able to do on opening day is to open a small trail on the main part of the mountain. In other words, even the very few spots where they have blown snow, they couldn't lay down a sufficient base. You have very few guns blowing on very little terrain. That's a bad recipe.
1) Does the forecast really say that temperatures will drop off on Wednesday? That's not what I'm seeing.
2) This illustrates just how bad the snowmaking situation is at Q Burke. Depsite making snow for weeks, the best they will be able to do on opening day is to open a small trail on the main part of the mountain. In other words, even the very few spots where they have blown snow, they couldn't lay down a sufficient base. You have very few guns blowing on very little terrain. That's a bad recipe.
VTKilarney
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My understanding is that they have plenty of water now. But didn't they tear down the building that would have allowed them to hook up rented compressors?
mbedle
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As far as their opening date, is this really that out of the norm for a resort the size of Q Burke? I vaguely remember reading that this place pulls about 75K skier visits a year. Is that correct? With those kind of numbers, their efforts seem appropriate given their responsibility to BMA. As far as equipment, I think someone posted some comment indicating that Q Burke would double the snowmaking efforts/equipment under the new owners. Didn't they build a new pump house on the mountain and purchase 20 fan guns? With what they had before, that seems to be more than double. As far as compresses air, has that really played a part at the resort'a ability to open this winter? I looked at some old screen shots from burkes website, and this all doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary, considering the weather.
mbedle
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Yeah, pretty sure that is it, with stormwater BMPs. Typically under a leasing option, a property owner will get it pad ready. Under a outright purchase, it is odd to have a seller complete pad ready activities. Maybe Newport online records are not up to date.
+ 1
I do bet that that certain gentleman has mixed feelings about the predicament of the mountain.
dlague
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Not even close comparing crowds at Cannon to Loon. Very rarely have o seen huge crowds at Cannon and it was my first year on a season pass.
But Cannon sucks! You can ask Puck it, Cannonball, JDRoma, fcksummer and others.
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steamboat1
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Doesn't even come close to the suckage at K-town.
halfpintvt
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VTKilarney
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Those photos are depressing, but thanks for sharing them.
What's shocking about these photos is that they REALLY tried to blow snow. I get that other areas haven't made an effort because of the weather, but Q Burke made an all out effort and this is the best they have to show for it.
Today's email clarified that once they get a single run open from the top they will be turning the guns on the lower mountain. If history is any indication, it will be several days before begin making snow on the main mountain again. This year may be a little better because Dashney Mile (the terrain park) is not scheduled for snowmaking when they make snow on the Sherburne area.
What's shocking about these photos is that they REALLY tried to blow snow. I get that other areas haven't made an effort because of the weather, but Q Burke made an all out effort and this is the best they have to show for it.
Today's email clarified that once they get a single run open from the top they will be turning the guns on the lower mountain. If history is any indication, it will be several days before begin making snow on the main mountain again. This year may be a little better because Dashney Mile (the terrain park) is not scheduled for snowmaking when they make snow on the Sherburne area.
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