Edd
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Whoa, I did not know about the winds tomorrow. At those temps, that's a problem.
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Big Burke announcement
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from_the_NEK
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Yep, the wind is what is keeping me from Jay tomorrow (lifts will likely be on hold). Burke's lifts don't typically get closed by WNW winds.
NOAA forecast for Burke tonight:
Tomorrow (Tuesday):
NOAA forecast for Burke tonight:
Tomorrow (Tuesday):
Edd
Well-known member
Dude, you're going to ski with those wind chills?
from_the_NEK
Active member
Yep 8). I go skiing every year on my birthday.
billski
Active member
I thought there were deep pockets over in Troy willing to make investments.... maybe operational costs (snowmaking) don't count but new signs can be capitalized?
Sounds like time for a passholder town meeting with Mr. Q and Stenger. That would be a showdown.
Sounds like time for a passholder town meeting with Mr. Q and Stenger. That would be a showdown.
You won't get them in that room together. They have different visions (and completely different levels of experience) on how to operate a ski area. Stenger may have attached his (and Jay's) brand to this train. But, for now, only team Q is at the controls. Seems unsustainable, but that's TBD.
billski
Active member
OK, then how about Q and the passholders and a security detail?
I'll bet their passholder sales will be precipitously down next year.
That begs the question as to why Stenger/Jay is even involved with Burke. Doesn't seem like the partnership offers Jay any financial value.
DJAK is correct. "Operational Efficiency" is king, followed directly by "getting the data". To confirm that they know how many people are riding the lifts and what passes they are using they have 2 employees at each chair scanning tickets and the top station employee has a clicker to count those exiting the lift. One presumes this is so they can confirm their scan count is correct? Counting the deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind.
Q has no interest in hearing from the customers. They are stupid jackasses who know nothing and are used to the old regime that was too nice to the customers, provided a product, and were pleasant. In properly military fashion he is getting us used to how we should be treated.
btw- lest anyone think I am exaggerating, I suggest riding the chair or walking around the lodges. Folks are pissed. Yes, a snowstorm would help, but most of Burke's customers are used to the lack of snow and happy with whatever they have, as long as the mountain is putting forth a good faith effort. You have never met a more loyal group of customers. And it appears that Ary has it as his mission to tell them to go to hell. Go figure.
Q has no interest in hearing from the customers. They are stupid jackasses who know nothing and are used to the old regime that was too nice to the customers, provided a product, and were pleasant. In properly military fashion he is getting us used to how we should be treated.
btw- lest anyone think I am exaggerating, I suggest riding the chair or walking around the lodges. Folks are pissed. Yes, a snowstorm would help, but most of Burke's customers are used to the lack of snow and happy with whatever they have, as long as the mountain is putting forth a good faith effort. You have never met a more loyal group of customers. And it appears that Ary has it as his mission to tell them to go to hell. Go figure.
Agreed
Agreed
kingdom-tele
New member
the financial value is going to be built. ala JPR the skiing concerns become a secondary contributor.
renaissance is ruffling.
Haven't posted in a while but noticed the conversation is still taking place. My latest heartbreak of the Q debacle was learning that there is no more Trout River on tap at the Mountain. That is the local brewery in Lyndonville. Seriously? My new term for any jerk is going to be Qhole.
Wow. What is the deal with that?
from_the_NEK
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Trout River had an contract taking "too much" of a $ cut per draft?
fbrissette
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Qburke Ale. (rebadged bud light)
twinplanx
Active member
I hope your joking. I'm not familiar with Trout River, but I always have at least a pint of the local beer when the situation arises. If this is true, it will certainly NOT help the Qsituation :-(
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dlague
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Wow and Trout River is from Lyndonville which is right next door. First Kingdom Trails and now Trout River. I don't get it!
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