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Bleak Christmas forecast

loafer89

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The latest NOAA forecasts are calling for two rain Event's for New England, one on friday and a possible significant one for Christmas or there about.

This would be a disaster for the resorts, lets hope it snows instead.
 

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Talk about the Grinch Whole Stole Christmas. :roll: Not you, Loafer, but Mother Nature in general.

13 days of the terrible, snowless year of 2006 left. :wink:

Here's to us getting a NORMAL winter starting in the New Year. :beer:
 

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I as mentioned in another weather related post I'm giving up my optimism for this winter. Since late November I was convinced the pattern would change right around today. I was wrong. The best we are going to get is just barely normal to slightly above normal for the next three weeks. The Arctic Oscillation, North Atlantic Oscillation, Pacific North American Index, Gulf of Alaska low, low over Greenland and split jet flow are all just perfectly aligned to prevent good skiing until at least mid Jan. Sorry. Don't look for great conditions or big trail counts until after MLK weekend.
The best thing I can say about the upcoming season is that we might have a great 10 weeks from late January until the end of March. Or the pattern and weather memory could have set in and we have an epic crappy season
 

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Look on the bright side. We've got good snowmaking temps for the week (in Northern VT anyway) and snow showers in the forecast over the next few days. While the snow showers won't pile up tons of snow (unless mother nature decides to pull a fast one on us), at least it's something.
A huge dump would be nice though, huh?!
 

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I wonder how many of these winters smaller areas with limited snowmaking (Plattekill, etc.) can survive. Last year was pretty bad and now this. That lost ski area list they keep on NELSAP might start to expand rapidly.
 

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I wonder how many of these winters smaller areas with limited snowmaking (Plattekill, etc.) can survive. Last year was pretty bad and now this. That lost ski area list they keep on NELSAP might start to expand rapidly.

not to start rumors, but i had heard back in sept that plattekill was on the fence about opening for this ski season (given their success in the mtn biking arena). was pleasantly surprised when i heard they were opening. however this weather might just push them over the edge.
 

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I just brought my ski's in for a tune at Ski Market to be ready for Ski Sundown on wednesday.

The show must go on regardless of the weather.
 

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I just brought my ski's in for a tune at Ski Market to be ready for Ski Sundown on wednesday.

The show must go on regardless of the weather.

Good man. I look forward to meeting you on Wednesday.
 

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I just brought my ski's in for a tune at Ski Market to be ready for Ski Sundown on wednesday.

The show must go on regardless of the weather.

What he said. Crappy start for sure, but at least I've been skiing and have had some fun days. I just want it to get cold so Sundown can make enough snow for the Nor'easter bumps. That will keep me happy until the real winter starts...
 

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While nights will allow snow making for the next 10 days the problem will be that there will be crowded trails, warm air and continued blowtorch periods for the next month. It will be a battle to keep open what's already open.
Trust me, nobody wants me to be wrong more than me but I'm just pretty confident we're in store for a 01-02, 1997-98 repeat.
 

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the problem will be that there will be crowded trails, warm air and continued blowtorch periods for the next month. It will be a battle to keep open what's already open.
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It's the Xmas vacation crowds that worry me. It's busy everywhere that week and with the limited terrain open it could be a zoo. People who have reservations will mostly still show rather then lose their deposits.
 

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Yea...I'm booked form 12/27 to 1/4 in placid and I'm really counting on a lot of people cancelling their trips to keep whiteface from being a insane zoo. I can just see excelscior now- wall to wall gapers.
Oh yea and I need it to snow there because my parents (we rent house with them) x-country ski and will go stir crazy if they can't do that. My mom might walk 400 laps around mirror lake and drive dad into ground if they can't ski.
 

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Yea...I'm booked form 12/27 to 1/4 in placid and I'm really counting on a lot of people cancelling their trips to keep whiteface from being a insane zoo. I can just see excelscior now- wall to wall gapers.
Oh yea and I need it to snow there because my parents (we rent house with them) x-country ski and will go stir crazy if they can't do that. My mom might walk 400 laps around mirror lake and drive dad into ground if they can't ski.

Fortunately Lake Placid offers alot to do besides skiing. Also WF has held on to all their terrain from last week and where able to blow snow this weekend. They're ready to lay down the white stuff and expand as temps allow.
 

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That forcast doesn't look as bad as what I've seen. I'm going with yours. I need hope.:snow:

Accuweather in this pattern is a mess beyond day 5. They use the 0 gfs run as their long term forecast model. In this pattern the GFS can't predict the swirling warm and cold pools of air. It does well long term when there is 1 dominant factor- we have no such factor.
 

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Boy do I feel bad for these poor souls who flew all the way from the UK to ski and ride Jay today. :( :(
there were a ton of girls at jay over the weekend speaking in an english accent. it was truly amusing to be at a ski area so influenced by it's quebecios ownership and also having a heavy mix of english accent thrown around as well. it was quite the multi-cultural experience!
 
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