Booster straps

[highpeaksdrifter]

Do you use them? Do you think they make a difference?

I had them on my Nordica Beasts and really liked them. This past season I went to the Nordica Dobie Pro 130, which has a Velcro strap not a booster. I had planned on putting a booster on, but after I skied the Dobbies I decided they worked find for me the way they are.

 

[SkiDog]

My boots have them...I use them...they seem to work..dont really know how much difference they make, but if they are there im using them.

M

 

[JimG.]

I use them...really important because I use AT boots as my daily ski boots and even though my Garmont Adrenalins are stiffer than most AT boots, they are still softer than alot of alpine boots. I need the extra support.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

I use them...really important because I use AT boots as my daily ski boots and even though my Garmont Adrenalins are stiffer than most AT boots, they are still softer than alot of alpine boots. I need the extra support.

Not being nosey, just lookin 4 conversation. Why AT boots for everyday. Seems like they be way too soft 4 someone at your skill level for everyday Hunta hadrpack.

 

[Greg]

This may sound like a retarded question, but can somebody describe the difference between booster straps and the velcro straps found on most modern boots?

 

[JimG.]

Not being nosey, just lookin 4 conversation. Why AT boots for everyday. Seems like they be way too soft 4 someone at your skill level for everyday Hunta hadrpack.

My Adrenalins are VERY stiff for an AT boot...they're designed to perform like an alpine boot. They are in fact about as stiff as the Technica IconX I was skiing on before. And that's about as stiff a boot as I would consider. I emphasize my ankle movements and don't like a boot that's too stiff.

The main reason I like the AT boot for everyday use is that they are very light. They weigh less than half as much as my old alpine boots. In fact, the reduced weight was the thing I had to get used to the most when I switched.

My main beef with new ski equipment is that it seems to have gotten much heavier over the years. Maybe it's just my perception, but using AT gear full time makes me much happier and makes my skiing crisper and quicker.

 

[awf170]

This may sound like a retarded question, but can somebody describe the difference between booster straps and the velcro straps found on most modern boots?

Booster straps = giant elastic band
http://www.bootfitters.com/booster.htm

 

[SkiDog]

My Adrenalins are VERY stiff for an AT boot...they're designed to perform like an alpine boot. They are in fact about as stiff as the Technica IconX I was skiing on before. And that's about as stiff a boot as I would consider. I emphasize my ankle movements and don't like a boot that's too stiff.

The main reason I like the AT boot for everyday use is that they are very light. They weigh less than half as much as my old alpine boots. In fact, the reduced weight was the thing I had to get used to the most when I switched.

My main beef with new ski equipment is that it seems to have gotten much heavier over the years. Maybe it's just my perception, but using AT gear full time makes me much happier and makes my skiing crisper and quicker.

I think im making the switch to adrenalines this year myself, although I think there might even be a beefier model coming out this year...

M

 

[JimG.]

I think im making the switch to adrenalines this year myself, although I think there might even be a beefier model coming out this year...

M

Yup, called the Endorphin; an updated and even stiffer version of the Adrenalin.

 

[SkiDog]

Yup, called the Endorphin; an updated and even stiffer version of the Adrenalin.

Yeah thats it....thanks.....probably better off buying the adrenalines though due to cost concerns...new models ALWAYS cost more...

Hey how did you "convert" the mondo sizing they use, or did you go to a shop and get "fitted"?

Thanks.

M

 

[JimG.]

Yeah thats it....thanks.....probably better off buying the adrenalines though due to cost concerns...new models ALWAYS cost more...

Hey how did you "convert" the mondo sizing they use, or did you go to a shop and get "fitted"?

Thanks.

M

Well, the Adrenalins aren't cheap either...it was the biggest negative about the boots.

I went through my shop to buy the boots and have them fitted. Keith is a Garmont rep so he can get a pair or two of the boots to see how they fit and return a pair that don't fit for other Garmont products, or stock the boots for another buyer. Plus, I always get a custom footbed for new boots (even though you can always use your old footbed) and a thorough fitting. Also, the Adrenalins have a thermoformable liner that you can cook yourself and fit, but I feel more comfortable having a pro do it.

 

[SkiDog]

Well, the Adrenalins aren't cheap either...it was the biggest negative about the boots.

I went through my shop to buy the boots and have them fitted. Keith is a Garmont rep so he can get a pair or two of the boots to see how they fit and return a pair that don't fit for other Garmont products, or stock the boots for another buyer. Plus, I always get a custom footbed for new boots (even though you can always use your old footbed) and a thorough fitting. Also, the Adrenalins have a thermoformable liner that you can cook yourself and fit, but I feel more comfortable having a pro do it.

I know the adrenalines arent cheap, but have to be cheaper than the new model...id imagine anyway...boot are always one of the priciest parts of the setup anyway so thats hardly an issue.

I also was aware of the thermofit liners and was thinking a pro shop could do that better...I think I will hit up Travelers or whatever its called in Rutland...well actually in Killington as they opened a shop up at the mtn last season right next to sure foot....I know they stock adrenalines so...

Wish me luck Ha...

Hey are you skiing those with AT binders as well or Apline binders and the "hard" sole?

thanks for the info Jim

M

 

[JimG.]

Hey are you skiing those with AT binders as well or Apline binders and the "hard" sole?

thanks for the info Jim

M

One of this boot's best features. I use both soles. If I'm just out there skiing without any particular focus, I use the AT rocker soles and the AT bindings. That's probably 60-65% of the time. When I'm in a mood for serious bumps, I switch to the DIN sole and "switch" skis...it's the same ski with a regular 2 piece alpine binding, no plates or lifters. That set up is perfect for zipperlining.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

My main beef with new ski equipment is that it seems to have gotten much heavier over the years. .

U right on there bra, especially with skis. Wider tip to tail adds weight, and ski companys moving away from cap construction to more sandwich (good thing IMO) adds more too. Thing is how heavy they r on your shoulder walkin from the parking lot doesn't matter as long as they perform on the snow.

 

[JimG.]

Thing is how heavy they r on your shoulder walkin from the parking lot doesn't matter as long as they perform on the snow.

Fortunately, I have a season locker.

I'm tall but fairly thin...6'3" and about 185lbs.
I really notice added weight while the boots/skis are on my feet. Until a few years ago when I switched to AT gear, I felt I had hit a wall performance wise and couldn't seem to break out of it. I felt sluggish and slow and the reason was the added weight of the newer equipment.

AT gear = problem solved.

 

[awf170]

good price on Adrenalins, but they only have 30/30.5
http://store.christysports.com/catalog/clearance/nordic_telemark_gear/telemark_nordic_boots/garmont_adrenaline_alpine_touring_boot

Also, here is some infomation on the Endorphin.
http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Gear/Garmont-Endorphin-Mg