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Burke Announces Multi million dollar capital improvement plan for this year

thetrailboss

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Masskier said:
I was up at Burke last week. They are doing a major and complete renovation of the Base lodge. The cafeteria is completely gone and just about everything else. They built a large deck on the j-bar side. It is going to be quite nice when they are done.

Any pics? Any word about what is going on with ownership/etc?
 

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No pics, I also hiked up to the top of the new lift. they cut a new trail down to the Quad. A esaier and safer way down for beginners. All of the new tower snow guns are still up at mid burke. No updates on the pending sale.
 

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Burke just released their Day Ticket Rates.

What are your thoughts?

They also are releasing some more information including changes. New restaurant called "Tamarack Grill" in Sherburne Base Lodge. Dashney Mile also will now have a terrain park on it :blink: So they added snowmaking to this trail I assume since it wasn't there to begin with? Edit...just read...snowmaking on all lower mountain trails which makes sense considering that they have added the new HSQ. I like Dashney, but it is flat. New groomer has been added as well. Lots of work...
 

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minor increase over last year and still competitive with other like minded great skiing destinations with no frills (cannon, wildcat, magic, mrg, etc.). considering the higher energy costs, a HSQ, and increased snow making, i think a $3 increase is reasonable.

burke was definitely in need of more terrain features. they never seemed to get much going previously.

also notice the new logo which i had heard rumor about recently. no more burkie the bear :(

everything sounds great to me! burke was looking very very white this afternoon from LSC. the clouds lifted briefly and the mountain was coated in white. excellent.
 

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BURKE UPDATE

I went up to the NEK today to get the skis, check out Burke, visit family, and go to the big St. J/LI game. I honestly was not prepared for what I saw at Burke.

First stop was lower mountain. The base lodge has been repainted from Gray to a taupe. New roof it appears. The wing on the S side of the building is gone and they appear to be working on a new addition. At this point, they only had a floor down and no walls. Poma/Leitner have taken up the lower lot and had the cross arms and sheaves assembled and ready to be put on. I believe there were about 15 cross arms. No chairs in site. They had some chairlift components on a trailer connected to a skidder ready to be hauled up. Lots of containers/trailers for parts.

Front stairway at Sherburne Base Lodge is being completely redone. The concrete steps have been removed and they were getting ready to lay down some new ones. Lots of snow/mud in the landing in area in front of the lodge. Work has been taking place on the base terminal, which is near completion. They are placing a lift operations shack on the left hand side of the lift. Pylons are in place and only later did I notice that Poma is recycling the old Hall pylons which makes sense considering that they were pretty heavy-duty (designed for a double-double). The liftline is clear and it appeared that they were working on the summit terminal. Ladders and hardware have been added to the pylons. Cross arms are next. Chairs, again, not in sight.

A 15-minute hike up the Dashney Mile/High Meadows trail revealed some fresh excavation and new snowmaking lines that run up Dashney Mile. Much excavation had been done again.

Contractors were working on the inside of the lodge.

I drove up to MidBurke to find a small crowd of hikers, skiers, boarders, and visitors. Snow was about ankle deep and had settled. Folks were hiking for turns on Lower Warren's. Lights on in MidBurke and work going on inside. New roof and paint.

Summit terminal of the HSQ is sitting in the parking lot in pieces.

Beside the components were 7 crates of 18 HKD towers waiting to be assembled, which makes about 130 new HKD towers for the mountain. :eek:

The maintenance lot was FULL of containers for hardware and parts as well as bulldozers and excavators from "Royal Trail Construction," out of Royalton, Vermont (a firm specializing in ski area work I take it). :blink: What was dramatic was the line of dumptrucks assembled and moving from MidBurke along a new dirt road in front of the lodge, down to the Willoughby Quad, and snaking in front of the quad and up the new trail to the old double summit terminal. In essence, Burke has built a new maintenace road for the HSQ terminal from this lodge to where it will rest...no small undertaking :eek: Crews were bulldozing and hauling dirt along the road. A team of welders and contractors had been working in front of this lodge with sections of new snowmaking line--looked like either 6 or 8 inch diameter line--and it was clear they had hauled the pipe from here and up the new trail, which is barely noticeable from MidBurke. Looks like a nice, easy run with high banks. Crews were working in the snowmaking compressor house (under the quad) with a high lift/crane--probably installing new compressors/pumps. A lot of activity. :eek:

So I was stoked to see snow on the mountain and some real construction going on...big time construction. Lots of local companies working up there.
 

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Word has it from one of my sources is that there has been no movement on the merger deal as of yet...

:-?
 

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Hey 'boss...

So if there's no merger, where did the money come from to do all of the work? I can't imagine it came from the pockets of BMA :eek:
 

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stomachdoc said:
Hey 'boss...

So if there's no merger, where did the money come from to do all of the work? I can't imagine it came from the pockets of BMA :eek:

No, there has been NO FURTHER MOVES regarding the merger. :wink:

As for $$$$, the work was done by Burke 2000 LLC...

I don't know who is funding it...have heard that it was Ginn, also have seen in the paper a few years ago that the mountain had attempted at least once to get a VEDA grant. Maybe that :-?
 

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Doubt we are going to hear what is happening up there for a loooooonnnnngggggg time :-?

The Caledonian Record said:
David Gwatkin spoke on behalf of Burke Mountain Operating Company in East Burke, and said he had no news on rumors of a possible new owner for the ski area, but said he hoped to have a press release in another month or two.

Gwatkin listed a brand new detachable chair lift, increased snowmaking pumping capacity, 75 new snow guns and a new restaurant as some of the recent developments at the ski area. This February the ski area will celebrate Burke Mountain's 50th anniversary as a modern ski area, he said.

SOURCE

This is starting to become a search for Jimmy Hoffa or something...:lol:
 

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Burke Mtn Marketing

While driving home from work this evening, I noticed while listening to my local NPR station (88.5 WFCR - Amherst, MA) that Burke Mountain is an underwriter of the station. Not an advertiser since NPR doesn't really do that but a supporter/underwriter.

Has anyone else noticed that phenomenon in your area? The reception area for WFCR extends from Southern VT into Northern CT with all of Western MA covered so it definitely makes sense.

I'm just curious about the extent of Burke's marketing. Supporting NPR is definitely a good move and consistent with Burke's profile by emphasizing quality over quantity.

BTW, when is the AZ outing at Burke this year? I definitely want to hit it as I am a Burke newbie and have heard such good things about it. Have you Burke(ies) set a date yet?
 

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Re: Burke Mtn Marketing

madskier6 said:
BTW, when is the AZ outing at Burke this year? I definitely want to hit it as I am a Burke newbie and have heard such good things about it. Have you Burke(ies) set a date yet?

Keep an eye on the Trips & Events Forum. AFAIK there aren't any dates set yet except for the 11th at Killington. Burke is definitely on the list though!
 

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i saw that today, frontpage on the paper with a map pointing out where burke and the proposed tower was. the interesting aspect of the article is regarding the location of the tower related to burke. the tower faces the beast bowl section of the mountain. in other words, it wouldn't be much of a visual issue from most spots on the mountain. but if they are planning on building up the east bowl (which was elluded to in the article), that could be a potential "eye sore" for guests skiing in the bowl. that would assume 'trails' would be opened up and a lift put in.
 

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riverc0il said:
i saw that today, frontpage on the paper with a map pointing out where burke and the proposed tower was. the interesting aspect of the article is regarding the location of the tower related to burke. the tower faces the beast bowl section of the mountain. in other words, it wouldn't be much of a visual issue from most spots on the mountain. but if they are planning on building up the east bowl (which was elluded to in the article), that could be a potential "eye sore" for guests skiing in the bowl. that would assume 'trails' would be opened up and a lift put in.

In between the East Bowl and Pinkham Road is a large plot of land that a certain 'someone' has purchased and would like to develop in connection with the mountain. That is where the concern lies.
 

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again, front page on the printed version of the cal rec today. really interesting article with a few new tid bits, but not too much new news. the article references the tamarack place as a place for the locals to go. then it mentions $16-20 entree prices, which means when you include a drink, tax, and tip, you are talking at least $30 per person per meal :eek: i know i won't be eatting there and i have a rare decent paying job for these parts. this is clearly a requirement by ginn & co. they need a very nice well to do restaurant for the rich tourists. that's cool! bet tell it like it is man! the ginn connection with the chef is kinda blatent. obviously ginn is calling the shots for burke right now and they won't sign the line until burke is the way they want it to be.

i liked the addition of having folks available to help families with their gear to the lodge. that is a REALLY GREAT IDEA. makes a place really family friendly. with a repaved lot and new ski school building, burke is really paving the way to be THE PLACE for great uncrowded skiing for the family in VT. seriously, i think i see some really good signs here folks.

the only thing that bothers me is the seperate building for brown baggers and turning the lodge into more of a restaurant. i saw this approach at crotched and i did not like it one bit. i don't mind seperate areas for brown baggers, but seperate but equal please! not a seperate building squeezed in with the ski school (the building dimensions are really small for both ski school and a cafe). what if i decide i want to buy some fries to go with my sandwich? i gotta go over to the real lodge? um, yea. fortunately, mid-burke to remain unchanged!
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pretty much, lots of great news all around.
 
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