Colts vs Bears

[BoB]

"Why do so many people seem to dislike Peyton Manning? "

Because he's so V-A-I-N...his commercials are way over the top. What a tool.

Because he beat the Pats?- naw, lots of teams have beaten them, but none with a QB so in love with himself.

 

[Warp Daddy]

Hey as a HUGE Bears fan -----WE"LL GLADLY TAKE MANNING . I dont give a rat's -ss bout his image or whatever . The sucker can chuck the ball

Anybody WANT Grossman ??????

 

[Paul]

"Why do so many people seem to dislike Peyton Manning? "

Because he's so V-A-I-N...his commercials are way over the top. What a tool.

Because he beat the Pats?- naw, lots of teams have beaten them, but none with a QB so in love with himself.

You can't be serious. Do you think he writes those commercials too?

 

[ChileMass]

OK - Peyton's commercials actually do make me laugh ("D-Caf, D-Caf......!!"), but in general I have a problem with looking at athletes hawking products and services. They're just jocks, after all. I simply prefer Brady because a) he's a Patriot, b) he's got three rings, and c) he keeps a very low profile. I think that's appropriate for a guy who throws a pig bladder around for a living.

The only athlete I can handle watching on TV doing anything other than his sport is Tiger Woods, based on the fact that he is so ridiculously intelligent and actually has something to say..........

 

[Warp Daddy]

SO CM how bout in addition to Athletes , we add entertainers, movie stars , talking heads with helmet hairdo's, loud mouth talk show hosts &hostesses yada, yada ,yada anyone care to add to the list of BOZOS hawking stuff

OH yes lest we not forget the unmentionables--------------------POLITICIANS

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Tiger is one who never seems to be off the radar... To me, he's a great football player, probably one of the better QB's statistically ever. And he did what Dan Marino never did do...he won the big game. Give the guy a break.

I agree Jim he did win the big game and will probably get a crack at 1 or 2 more before hes done, he just acts strangely to me.. One thing about Tiger, hes the only reason i took up golf 5yrs ago, we are the same age and he is my favorite golfer, However i got the opportunity to follow him around that Friday at Winged Foot right before he missed the cut, ya know like 15feet from the guy for 18holes i was there, however after that i kinda wasnt a big fan of him anymore, hes just so robotic, you really dont see it on TV but he just doesnt even act human, hard to explain, dont get me wrong i still love him and hes the best at what he does but it came at a price, when people say hes not human, umm seriously hes not.. Now in the same day i followed Mickelson around for 9 holes and hes joking with all of us about eating his Chex-mix and then hits a great shot right after that, Tiger all business, i related more to Phil as now i see why he has a huge following, Daly as well, we can relate to these guys, tiger not so much, but different strokes for different folks.

 

[jack97]

OK - Peyton's commercials actually do make me laugh ("D-Caf, D-Caf......!!"), but in general I have a problem with looking at athletes hawking products and services. They're just jocks, after all. I simply prefer Brady because a) he's a Patriot, b) he's got three rings, and c) he keeps a very low profile. I think that's appropriate for a guy who throws a pig bladder around for a living.

I agree....

IIRC, brady did his first commercial with Madden for Sirious radio and then insisted and brought his receivers for another shot. Later he did the credit card gig, insisted on bringing in the O line. The later turned out to be his last, according to a weei interview, the whole process just left a bad taste in his mouth.

The pimp on the other hand will use his new fame as a SB winner to front more products. In my book, saying yes all the time to these commercials put you in the same boat as the talking heads in the media. Its’ not because he needs the money, he has to feed his ego.

 

[Paul]

I agree....

IIRC, brady did his first commercial with Madden for Sirious radio and then insisted and brought his receivers for another shot. Later he did the credit card gig, insisted on bringing in the O line. The later turned out to be his last, according to a weei interview, the whole process just left a bad taste in his mouth.

The pimp on the other hand will use his new fame as a SB winner to front more products. In my book, saying yes all the time to these commercials put you in the same boat as the talking heads in the media. Its’ not because he needs the money, he has to feed his ego.

Here's where that argument loses its credibility...;-)

Its like saying "according to FOX News, Dick Cheney is a really loveable teddybear who likes puppies and sunshine."

 

[jack97]

Here's where that argument loses its credibility...;-)

Its like saying "according to FOX News, Dick Cheney is a really loveable teddybear who likes puppies and sunshine."

Good point, however, I heard an excerpt where brady said he was going lay low on the commercials for a while.

BTW whats' wrong with liking puppies and sunshine and being a warmonger?

 

[JimG.]

Once he agrees to make those commercials he is part of the media circus.

Would you turn down the MILLIONS in endorsement dollars and not make the commercials to maintain your philosophical viewpoint?

If so, you are more committed to your principles than 99.999999999% of the rest of humanity.

 

[jack97]

Would you turn down the MILLIONS in endorsement dollars and not make the commercials to maintain your philosophical viewpoint?

In 04, Peyton agreed to a 99 million contract for seven years, 34 million in signing bonus (guarantee money, no restructure). If I had this wealth I would say its enuf for me. Which goes back to my original point, either he wants more money or he has to feed his ego.

All indications are that Brady has his money, he is turning down commercial to focus on football.

 

[JimG.]

In 04, Peyton agreed to a 99 million contract for seven years, 34 million in signing bonus (guarantee money, no restructure). If I had this wealth I would say its enuf for me. Which goes back to my original point, either he wants more money or he has to feed his ego.

All indications are that Brady has his money, he is turning down commercial to focus on football.

Like I said, you are more committed to your ideals than most. You and Tom. Tom Brady, didn't he appear on SNL in his underwear? That was really funny, especially now that I think he must have done so for free because of his ideals.

But in your case I think you ought to wait until you're filthy rich already and have to turn down another 50 mil before you decide how you'll really react.

I wouldn't leave any of that money on the table and I dare say most others wouldn't either.

And no shot at Brady here because he's a great QB, but for all his focus and all of Manning's supposed love of self and money, which of them won the Super Bowl?

 

[jack97]

Tom Brady, didn't he appear on SNL in his underwear? That was really funny, especially now that I think he must have done so for free because of his ideals.

Brady was drafted in the 6th round, prob made minimum at 250k/yr. The year he won his first sb, he did the snl gig and the sirous commercial (maybe two years later), he was under that contract, to the patriots credit, they restructure his contract two or three years afterwards, to reflect his on field performance.

Peyton was the first pick in 98, became an instant millionaire (ryan leaf the second pick got over 40 million). The Peyton got more from the table with 04 contract. This isn’t taking anything away from his performance on the field, he does have a laser rocket arm. I just don’t like him because he either greedy or vain, prob a little of both.

 

[JimG.]

I just don’t like him because he either greedy or vain, prob a little of both.

Then you've met him and spoken to him at length; and you examined his finances to see what he does with his money.

Greedy and vain...alot of folks feel that way about all athletes.

Jack, I'm not trying to be a pain here, but don't you think you might be jumping to conclusions about him being greedy and vain? I can't tell squat about an athlete from watching them play or watching their commercials. For all I know, Manning may be a flaming asshole, but I can't assume he is just because he's good, he makes alot of money, and he makes commercials. That describes alot of successful athletes.

 

[jack97]

Then you've met him and spoken to him at length; and you examined his finances to see what he does with his money.

Greedy and vain...alot of folks feel that way about all athletes.

Jack, I'm not trying to be a pain here, but don't you think you might be jumping to conclusions about him being greedy and vain? I can't tell squat about an athlete from watching them play or watching their commercials. For all I know, Manning may be a flaming asshole, but I can't assume he is just because he's good, he makes alot of money, and he makes commercials. That describes alot of successful athletes.

C'mon Jim, stop taking it out of context. Not all atheletes want to grab it all from the table. Since I only follow the Pat, I can name Brady, Bruschi, Covlin, Brown, Vrabel and maybe Seymour who have taken less to stay and play for the Pats.

BTW, all this greed is turning me off from baseball, followed it when I was a kid, hardly ever follow it now. The NFL is borderline and I have been slowly turning off.

 

[JimG.]

C'mon Jim, stop taking it out of context. Not all atheletes want to grab it all from the table. Since I only follow the Pat, I can name Brady, Bruschi, Covlin, Brown, Vrabel and maybe Seymour who have taken less to stay and play for the Pats.

BTW, all this greed is turning me off from baseball, followed it when I was a kid, hardly ever follow it now. The NFL is borderline and I have been slowly turning off.

I'm not disagreeing with you...I watch alot less also for the same reason.

I don't think I've taken anything out of context though...I'm just confused why Manning gets the lion's share of your disgust when most other star athletes do exactly what he does. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that most Americans live by the creedo "grab as much as you can for you and yours". What makes it so wrong when Manning does it?

The obvious fact that you just don't like him seems to be the main issue.

 

[jack97]

..I'm just confused why Manning gets the lion's share of your disgust when most other star athletes do exactly what he does. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that most Americans live by the creedo "grab as much as you can for you and yours". What makes it so wrong when Manning does it?

The only problem I have is that I have to watch his commericals all week long, take about saturation. To me a big turn off.

BTW, the only time I watch TV is for news, interesting documentary or sporting events.

 

[Paul]

Good point, however, I heard an excerpt where brady said he was going lay low on the commercials for a while.

BTW whats' wrong with liking puppies and sunshine and being a warmonger?

Okay, as long as it wasn't Pete doing an impersonation...:razz:

Hmmmm.....I'll have to ponder the puppies/warmonger one...:idea:


FWIW, I agree with Jim. I tend to think many star atheletes etc... are vain, horrible etc, but there are quite a few who prove to be otherwise. (Brady, McNabb, Brees, Tiki and Rhonde Barber...) I really don't put Peyton in either of these categories. Yet.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The only problem I have is that I have to watch his commericals all week long, take about saturation. To me a big turn off.

BTW, the only time I watch TV is for news, interesting documentary or sporting events.

Obviously you don't have the "home boil lancing channel"

 

[JimG.]

The only problem I have is that I have to watch his commericals all week long, take about saturation. To me a big turn off.

BTW, the only time I watch TV is for news, interesting documentary or sporting events.

That's fair...pretty much sucks to have to see him so much if you don't like him; I don't much care for the sports hero saturation thing either.

I felt that way with Michael Jordan (I hated the Spike Lee commercials), Tiger (who hawks everything under the sun), and especially Kobe Bryant's McDonalds commercials, especially after his faux pas in the hotel room.

Unfortunately, the only way to stop it is to use the remote and change the channel.