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Do campaign signs work?

riverc0il

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The only thing I hate more than campaign signs is campaign TV ads... It's mostly mud slinging BS...
Sadly, these ads also work. Well, differently than you might think. Instead of trying to get you to vote for a candidate, attack ads work in getting you to not vote for the other guy... often times getting people to not vote at all. This works well for the middle of the pack voters who don't lean one way or the other. Basically, it turns people off from voting all together. But one less vote for "the other guy" so they work in that sense.

Personally, I hate it. But it ain't going away without changing the voting system to another system such as RCV/IRV or other such non-two party balanced voting systems that encourage good behavior.
 

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Some of you guys get worked up over the silliest things. First Christmas lights in October, now campaign signs? I must be pretty blind to all this...

are you blind to talking banner ads on message boards too? :razz:

or just deaf ;)
 

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Sadly, these ads also work. Well, differently than you might think. Instead of trying to get you to vote for a candidate, attack ads work in getting you to not vote for the other guy... often times getting people to not vote at all. This works well for the middle of the pack voters who don't lean one way or the other. Basically, it turns people off from voting all together. But one less vote for "the other guy" so they work in that sense.

Personally, I hate it. But it ain't going away without changing the voting system to another system such as RCV/IRV or other such non-two party balanced voting systems that encourage good behavior.

I know it works, it's probably why I'm so turned off to the whole voting process. Luckily I don't watch as much TV these days so I don't have to suffer through campaign ads. Most of my time is on the internet, which they thankfully haven't found a way to over run with campaign ads, yet...
 

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WE HAVE to vote no matter HOW distasteful the precursors to the election are, there are simply too many under-qualified or avaricious people in the candidate mix today . If we fail to weed out the worst we get what we deserve .

I know all the buzz about GOOD FOLKS won't run bcuz of all the negativity If good folks continue to opt out of the process we face a future similar to that of western Europe
 

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WE HAVE to vote no matter HOW distasteful the precursors to the election are, there are simply too many under-qualified or avaricious people in the candidate mix today . If we fail to weed out the worst we get what we deserve .

I know all the buzz about GOOD FOLKS won't run bcuz of all the negativity If good folks continue to opt out of the process we face a future similar to that of western Europe

I have always and will always vote. That said, until the system changes... we only vote for the least worst option, the lesser of the two evils. It has nothing to do with how people vote, it has to do with how our political system and voting system are setup. Until that changes, we don't get what we deserve, we get what the system gives us and I think that is really what keeps people from voting... apathy in the face of irrelevance.

The more local the election though the more important voting becomes and the more likely there are more than two options, perhaps even a good option, and you have people running that are not "system" career politicians. So on the local level, it is quite a different scene with people making real decisions that have major effects (not that national decisions are not "real").
 

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Full disclosure. I have probably missed voting twice in the past 36 years.

Signs don't annoy me. It's the people standing at the street corners waving and smiling at me holding signs that bother me. Why? Because they only love me for my vote. Where are they a week after the election? Smiling at me? Waving at me? Holding the door open for me? Making eye contact on the street? Offering me free coffee? Nada.

Love 'em and leave 'em.

I'll stick with the issues fact sheets and debates. I'll skip the Nuremberg rally.

I'm wondering how long this thread will go before the mods lock it???
 

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There are about.....a thousand campaign signs going up in my town. As I drove by a ribbon of names I thought, this isn't really effective. I'm not even sure of all the names I cruised by, but more keep going up. What do you think. Do campaign signs influence your vote?

Those signs are not meant to get votes. They are there so the pin heads running can see there names on the side of the road and feel important.
 

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You're too easy going dude. You gotta get worked up about stupid crap every once and a while, it's good for you! :beer:

Life is busy and complex enough as it is...
 

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There's one spot on my drive home that has 20-30 signs in a row. Fortunately, it's on a 15 mph curve that I enjoy taking closer to 40-50, so the signs make it easy to watch the outside radius of the curve (really more of a corner). Makes me feel all Grand Prix-ish.

After the elections, maybe I'll use the tail of teh car to knock down the signs. Of course, the massive blocks of stone that follow the signs might cause a problem (I told my wife we should go ahead and buy a front right quarter panel, so I can just swap it out when I eventually test the stability of those rocks. Not surprisingly, she didn't think it was a good idea.)
 

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I'm pretty solid with my political views...but I don't want to put them on my front lawn. Plus, it really takes away from the nice stripes I lay down with my mower.
 

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Back in upstate NY, my friend and I roughly estimated that there were 1800 signs around town, just for the town supervisor race a few years ago.

Total population of town- roughly 6000.
Total # of votes cast in said election- 687

Signs on the yard of prominent citizens of small towns probably sway some votes.

Clusters of signs along off ramps and in the public sphere seem more like visual blight to me. Sort of an arms race in miniature.

But nobody said democracy was pretty.
 

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There's one spot on my drive home that has 20-30 signs in a row. Fortunately, it's on a 15 mph curve that I enjoy taking closer to 40-50, so the signs make it easy to watch the outside radius of the curve (really more of a corner). Makes me feel all Grand Prix-ish.
So do use them as braking, apex, and corner exit markers?

One ramp on my way to work is marked as a 35mph, and it's decreasing radius. Great part of it is there's no place for cops to hide except in the oncoming lane, where they're powerless to do anything as my license plate is blocked by Jersey barriers and they'd be a couple minutes behind me if they take the next exit. I've actually passed a couple at 90 near the apex. Someone even conveniently put up a corner exit cone, but it's about 20 feet too early. At least that's the only reason I can think of for the traffic cone's that's been there for a while.
 

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And actually somewhat on subject for this one, I usually take political bumper stickers to be a sign of the intelligence of the car's owner. Therefore the better choice is probably the one with fewer bumper stickers.

Local signs are more about awareness than anything else. If you've never heard of somebody, you're not going to vote for them.
 

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So do use them as braking, apex, and corner exit markers?

Mostly apex. Braking and exit are marked by potholes, which makes the maneuver even more interesting, especially in a rear wheel drive with 19 inch low profiles.The car, she hops!
 

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Back in upstate NY, my friend and I roughly estimated that there were 1800 signs around town, just for the town supervisor race a few years ago.

Total population of town- roughly 6000.
Total # of votes cast in said election- 687

Signs on the yard of prominent citizens of small towns probably sway some votes.

Clusters of signs along off ramps and in the public sphere seem more like visual blight to me. Sort of an arms race in miniature.

But nobody said democracy was pretty.
Those signs would look mighty fine all lined up nicely in a cemetery...
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