Do skiier's hate Snowboarders?

[ta&idaho]

Sounds like at least some of us do pass judgement on people because they happen to be on Snowboards. No wonder the entire world is a shit show...human nature to focus on differences, not simularities? Or just our American condition created by mass media fear mongering and perpetuating contempt for people who are not like us? Either way, I'm glad that my resort-free snow sliding exsistance is completely void of this demension, except for the 2-3 days a year I go skin the single chair side when it's on wind hold afer a nice Nor'easter. On those days I miss my knuckle dragging bredrens.

I have an Avenue Q clip for that one, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbQiSVeQwVQ&feature=related

 

[KevinF]

Hate seems like too strong a word, but there does seem to be some natural friction between skiers and snowboarders. So maybe annoyance would be a better word.

The two groups have some built in conflict areas, such as:

Snowboarders ride on one edge rather than two, so it tends to cut a deeper rut in the snow, which can make skiers more likely to catch an edge, or have a more bumpy ride than they otherwise would.

LOL. Ruts created by boarders??? A carving snowboarder -- i.e., somebody who is really carving, creating a rut -- is incredibly beautiful to watch. I hardly ever see anybody doing it, or even coming remotely close. (That said, most skiers I see coming close to carving a turn are members of the local race team as well).

It's so rare to see a true-carving rut-creating snow-slider that it's a total non-issue. And if you're somehow "catching an edge" on a "rut" caused by another skier / boarder... well, it's time to retreat to the bunny hill.

 

[JD]

I have an Avenue Q clip for that one, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbQiSVeQwVQ&feature=related

I can't even get a taxi! LMFAO.

 

[Riverskier]

I have no problem with snowboarders at all, and certainly don't hate them. In fact, the person I have spent the most time on the mountain with is a boarder. Better on his board than I will ever be on my skis. Just plain fun to watch, whether it be in the bumps, trees, or anywhere else on the mountain.

However, fact: A snowboarder in over their head does more damage to a trail than a skier. Sliding sideways down a trail, they may as well be plowing the snow down the trail. As skier can certainly have the same effect, but in my experiences not nearly as bad. Of course, this isn't a problem with the sport, but with certain individuals.

 

[campgottagopee]

Boarding, skiing, tele or what have you is like drinking beer.

I haven't met too many people I wouldn't drink a beer with so why the hell would I care how they slide down the mountain. :beer:

 

[HD333]

Being both a skier and a boarder I can say that people hate snowboarders, at least that is the vibe I get when I switch. I am competent at both, realistically probably a better boarder now since the last 6 years I have mainly boarded, I follow the same ettique (sp) on both. But I see a world of difference depending on what I am riding, Ask politly to skip ahead in line to form a quad with wife and kids who are one group ahead with skis on I get "oh sure no problem" Same thing on my board, stares of disgust like this knuckle dragger wants to cut ME so he can ride with his kids, are they even his kids or is he scamming me.

Bad example cause cutting the line sucks but I think you get my point, OK for skiers NOT OK for boarders.

 

[mondeo]

I don't see what the bid deal with MRG banning snowboarders is. It's a niche mountain. One thing that's definitely true of snowboards is that it's harder to turn quickly, except for the rare few that have figured out how to turn with just their back leg in the bumps. Just the mechanics, feet far apart need to move more in order to turn. But no secret that it's harder to board in bumps than ski, so you get more boarders side slipping in the bumps. MRG is natural trails, which outside of powder day are bump runs.

I've got no problem with boarders, I'm a bump skier so most of my friends are skiers, but a few boarders mixed in as well. But you can't deny that they have different impacts on mountains. For what it's worth non-bump skiers are less predictable in the bumps than snowboarders, so it's not all bad.

As far as scraping snow and creating wall bumps goes, teles are by far the worst. Plus they smell.

 

[JD]

teles are by far the worst. Plus they smell.

.....like good reefer...

 

[dmc]

.....like good reefer...

This may seem strange... But none of the guys i tele with smoke... again.. another stereotype blasted....

 

[abc]

Ask politly to skip ahead in line to form a quad with wife and kids who are one group ahead with skis on I get "oh sure no problem" Same thing on my board, stares of disgust like this knuckle dragger wants to cut ME so he can ride with his kids, are they even his kids or is he scamming me.

Bad example cause cutting the line sucks but I think you get my point, OK for skiers NOT OK for boarders.

Steroetypes don't come out of vacume. Boarders got bad reps because they create the rep in the first place! Boarders jump queues much more often than skiers!!!

Was the bad rep created by EVERY boarder? NO. But enough of them that the steraotype are reenforced frequently enough to NOT go away.

When 80-90% of boarders are polite and respectful, I bet the stereotype will die. (it has decreased somewhat already. But personally, I still see more rude boarders than skiers on average)

 

[millerm277]

Bad skiers in over their head tend to fall and make for good videos with equipment being lost as they fall. Bad snowboarders in over their head tend to slide on their ass down the trail with the wonderful scraping noise. Which is better, depends on if you are one of the people in the "bad" category or not.

 

[JD]

Bad skiers in over their head tend to fall and make for good videos with equipment being lost as they fall. Bad snowboarders in over their head tend to slide on their ass down the trail with the wonderful scraping noise. Which is better, depends on if you are one of the people in the "bad" category or not.

I've wathched groups of skiier side slip hour glass from below....If you can't rip it, skip it, no matter what your on...

 

[ski_resort_observer]

If one actually looked at a chart with the numbers of skiers and riders in the last 15 years you will quickly see that without the fast growth of snowboarders from 1995 to 2005 we would have alot less resorts than we do now. Regarding the OP, the idea that all skiers might hate snowboarders is total stupidtown.

 

[Cannonball]

How is this even a topic of discussion anymore? This dead horse has been thoroughly beaten. As a skier, boarder, tele'r who rides with a large group of young/old/male/female skiers, riders, tele'rs I can assure you that any of the perceived conflicts are fictitious.

Great snow this week. The season is on! EVERYONE ENJOY!

 

[thorski]

So what are you saying?

I am saying Snowboarders are more likely to hate skiers and be Malicious about it.

 

[dl]

Ski Resort Observer said it and I'll reinforce it. The reality is that you should be thanking a snowboarder vs hating one. Without snowboarding the ski industry as a whole would not look like it does today. Technology from snowboards helped change the ways skis are made - all for the better. And, without riders or sliders dozens of ski areas that we enjoy today might not be around. Bottom line - skiers need snowboarders and visa-versa. Next topic.

 

[psyflyer]

If one actually looked at a chart with the numbers of skiers and riders in the last 15 years you will quickly see that without the fast growth of snowboarders from 1995 to 2005 we would have alot less resorts than we do now. Regarding the OP, the idea that all skiers might hate snowboarders is total stupidtown.

Do you know where I can find such a chart? Thanks in advance.

 

[JD]

If one actually looked at a chart with the numbers of skiers and riders in the last 15 years you will quickly see that without the fast growth of snowboarders from 1995 to 2005 we would have alot less resorts than we do now. Regarding the OP, the idea that all skiers might hate snowboarders is total stupidtown.

So why are they banned at MRG?

 

[JD]

and deer valley.....

 

[campgottagopee]

So why are they banned at MRG?

Great question---for such a place as MRG and all the "soul" it has sure seems un-American to me.