Environmental Damage at Cannon Mountain Ski Area

[threecy]

threecy is trying to convince people with his multiple websites attacking State management of New Hampshire's premier park.

Yes multiple websites

taxpayersforcannon

gofranconia

the facebook page

never mind at least two forums that I am aware of you campaigning on

I have no involvement with gofranconia. The Facebook page is for TaxpayersforCannon.com. I don't own the two ski forums I post in.

Your environmental concerns are not without merit, but I think you are going a little bit over the top just to push your distaste for Cannon being state run. The damage while not acceptable wasn't all that bad, especially considering they are fixing the problem (according to others) and I doubt they are fixing the issue due to your vigilance. Stick to your larger point, that you don't want Cannon on the government books. When you start attacking Cannon over other issues it seems like spilled milk. You really lose a lot of credibility.

The environmental concerns (with photos taken by a lawmaker) were brought up in the NH State Senate this spring. I posted photos I'd taken on the site this summer, due in part to inquiries as to guesses about what was being discussed in the Senate, and the contrast between the prohibition of allowing non-skiing activity on government land for "environmental reasons" and what was occurring from non-foot traffic.

 

[deadheadskier]

I have no involvement with gofranconia. The Facebook page is for TaxpayersforCannon.com. I don't own the two ski forums I post in.
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http://gofranconia.com/cannoncase.html

you have no affiliation or involvement with that? I find that extremely difficult to believe that you haven't at least been in discussion with the owner of that website and at least provided them data.

I didn't say you owned two ski forums. I said you're campaigning on two ski forums.


......all for 1/100th of 1 percent of the State's Budget

 

[threecy]

I have no involvement with gofranconia.

http://gofranconia.com/cannoncase.html

you have no affiliation or involvement with that? I find that extremely difficult to believe that you haven't at least been in discussion with the owner of that website and at least provided them data.

I don't even know how owns/runs gofranconia.com, nevermind have any affiliation or involvement with the site. Maybe I should contact them.

 

[AdironRider]

Question, does Cannon have marked on map hiking trails? If they do, why is it important for one to hike up the ski trails?

Kinsman glade is the summer hiking trail I believe. Why anyone would want to hike around a ski trail is beyond me, outside of Threecy trying to prove a trivial point.

 

[Puck it]

Kinsman glade is the summer hiking trail I believe. Why anyone would want to hike around a ski trail is beyond me, outside of Threecy trying to prove a trivial point.

It is. I am no threecy but I hike ski trails. It is interesting to see what you are skiing over. Also helps in mapping out of trail possilbilities.

 

[AdironRider]

Mapping out a ski trail? Its not that hard to find the clearing in the woods is it? Or are you refering to mapping the "off map" stuff. I see that point.

 

[Puck it]

Mapping out a ski trail? Its not that hard to find the clearing in the woods is it? Or are you refering to mapping the "off map" stuff. I see that point.

Off map of course. Especially a place like Cannon. The trails are a way to get to the off map stuff. The entrances are not always obvious.

 

[David Metsky]

Kinsman glade is the summer hiking trail I believe.

The Kinsman Ridge trail has run through that area for decades. It was greatly degraded by the creation of Kinsman Glades and now is rarely used by hikers because of this. However it's still the best way to do a loop involving the Greenleaf Trail coming off Lafayatte so it will still get some use.

 

[Nick]

It is. I am no threecy but I hike ski trails. It is interesting to see what you are skiing over. Also helps in mapping out of trail possilbilities.

Yeah, it is interesting.... usually a lot rockier than you'd expect

 

[thetrailboss]

This is impressive:

Congratulations to Cannon's Bruce Sullivan (pictured left) who was honored by Governor Lynch today for 30+ years of State service. Bruce, our Lift Mechanic Supervisor, has made significant contributions over the years and is one of many that help make Cannon a very special place.

 

[DoublePlanker]

The Kinsman Ridge trail has run through that area for decades. It was greatly degraded by the creation of Kinsman Glades and now is rarely used by hikers because of this. However it's still the best way to do a loop involving the Greenleaf Trail coming off Lafayatte so it will still get some use.

I hiked this trail this spring. There were a bunch of people hiking it that day. The trail seemed like it had a lot of erosion. IMO, it didn't look like it was greatly degraded by the ski trail. Yes, it does switchback across it a few times.

 

[Northernflight]

I hiked this trail this spring. There were a bunch of people hiking it that day. The trail seemed like it had a lot of erosion. IMO, it didn't look like it was greatly degraded by the ski trail. Yes, it does switchback across it a few times.

Ive hiked it a few times, never before the glade was in and I like it, its a fairly interesting trail, for me the disappointment is the developed summit, still a few nice spots up there.. Usually are a couple people out on it whenever I go but it is by far the most eroded trail Ive seen.

 

[Northernflight]

I hiked this trail this spring. There were a bunch of people hiking it that day. The trail seemed like it had a lot of erosion. IMO, it didn't look like it was greatly degraded by the ski trail. Yes, it does switchback across it a few times.

Ive hiked it a few times, never before the glade was in and I like it, its a fairly interesting trail, for me the disappointment is the developed summit, still a few nice spots up there.. Usually are a couple people out on it whenever I go but it is by far the most eroded trail Ive seen.

 

[David Metsky]

There was much less erosion before Kinsman Glade was cut, but that could be rectified the park trail crew spending some time up there. In winter, however, when Kinsman Glade is open for skiing, it's dangerous to hike that trail. Snowshoers coming up through the middle of a ski run isn't a great situation.

 

[ceo]

I was told by a tram operator that the plans called for Kinsman Glade to run between the Kinsman Ridge Trail and the drainage that's closer to the tram, but when the guys went out with chainsaws they cut it right down the KRT.

 

[Cannonball]

Not making excuses...but there was a serious blow down throughout FNSP and beyond the same year that glade was cut. Some of the impact in Kinsman was manmade, some was nature.

 

[Puck it]

Not making excuses...but there was a serious blow down throughout FNSP and beyond the same year that glade was cut. Some of the impact in Kinsman was manmade, some was nature.

Go to taxpayersforkinsmanglade.com to view the damage.

 

[Cannonball]

Go to taxpayersforkinsmanglade.com to view the damage.

Hilarious!! Part of the reason I know the damage wasn't all Cannon's fault is that Threecy hasn't waged a campaign around it.

 

[Puck it]

Hilarious!! Part of the reason I know the damage wasn't all Cannon's fault is that Threecy hasn't waged a campaign around it.

There has no been a lot of blown down in there over last few years that has not been cleaned. They really should cut up some of it.

 

[AdironRider]

There has no been a lot of blown down in there over last few years that has not been cleaned. They really should cut up some of it.

This is a good point. My last season as a passholder 06-07, Kinsman was pretty bad with all the blowdown. I heard they got in there and cleaned it up the next season, but wouldnt suprise me if that was a yearly type thing with the weather in the notch.