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Global warming done for now?

mountainman

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Reports out now that global in a down turn weather experts reporting. Sunspot activity has declined. Colder temps are coming? Vostock, Antarctica -129 below. Northern Alaska temps -70 / -80 below. Let's hope.
 

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Being "global" warming just cause it's cold in our little corner of the world don't mean anything. Just read that on a global basis 2008 was the 3rd warmest year on record. You do realize that there are are other continents on the planet, right?

Exactly. I'm grilling a steak outside in a t-shirt right now, temps in the upper 50's. I just went for a mountain bike ride a while back. It's warm here but that is a tiny wedge of the overall big picture.
 

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Being "global" warming just cause it's cold in our little corner of the world don't mean anything. Just read that on a global basis 2008 was the 3rd warmest year on record. You do realize that there are are other continents on the planet, right?

That's why "global warming" is also called "climate change" some areas will get colder, some will get warmer. The average temperature of the planet will rise though. I saw on the weather channel that there was something like 20 times as many record highs than record lows in the past year.
 

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Reports out now that global in a down turn weather experts reporting. Sunspot activity has declined. Colder temps are coming? Vostock, Antarctica -129 below. Northern Alaska temps -70 / -80 below. Let's hope.

Well, I haven't lost any money from my paycheck this year, so I guess the economy is just ducky..
 

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Being "global" warming just cause it's cold in our little corner of the world don't mean anything. Just read that on a global basis 2008 was the 3rd warmest year on record. You do realize that there are are other continents on the planet, right?
It always amazes me how anytime a localized cold snap happens how quickly people jump on the climate change/global warming issue and point towards a short term isolated cold snap as a sign of bad science or a reverse in the trend. It is called counting the hits while ignoring the misses. Same can be said for the folks on the opposite end of the spectrum that trump any 100 degree day in the summer as a sign of impending apocalypse.
 

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Farmers Alamanc link towards cooling.

It always amazes me how anytime a localized cold snap happens how quickly people jump on the climate change/global warming issue and point towards a short term isolated cold snap as a sign of bad science or a reverse in the trend. It is called counting the hits while ignoring the misses. Same can be said for the folks on the opposite end of the spectrum that trump any 100 degree day in the summer as a sign of impending apocalypse.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2008-09-09-farmers-almanac_N.htm
 

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I have to say that I am not a GW advocate. 2008 was not a warm year, in fact global temperatures have been declining since 1998.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24861809-5009760,00.html

Global sea ice in the largest area, Antartica, have been increasing.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg

The largest source of all heat and energy in the world has not seen an increase. That is the Pacific Ocean. Until the oceans warm, no warming is going to happen. The last 20 years we have been in warm phase of the PDO. That has changed and the next 20 years will be colder. The warm phases of our planet have lead to many of humanities greatest periods. Egypt, Rome, Greece, Mesopotania and the Nordic dynasties all thrived during warm periods.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...rbooker/3562141/Climate-change-chicanery.html

I believe that the money being spent, trying to stop GW can be used to help fight pollution, poverty, and terrorism. Over fishing of the oceans and the demise of the tropical rain forests are far serious concerns.

Many more articles can be found here:

http://icecap.us/index.php

I would love to discuss these issues with anyone, offline.
 
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2008 ranked top ten in the warmest years of all time, other years like 2003 and 2005 and especially 2007 have been extremely warm since 1998...Keep in mind 2008 may be the coolest year in the last century yet it is a top 10 warm year...hmmm.

Scientists have predicted extreme weather as a result of climate change in the form or record high and low temperatures, severe weather, and even increased snowfall in the short-term.

Climate change or global warming is nearly indisputable at this point in time, the argument has shifted to the cause of the warming.

If i had a heart problem I would trust a cardiologist, if I had a car problem I would trust a mechanic, if I have a question about the global climate, I think I'm going to listen to the scientists especially climatologists and meteorologists who seem to all be on the same page with this one.
 

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I have to say that I am not a GW advocate. 2008 was not a warm year, in fact global temperatures have been declining since 1998.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24861809-5009760,00.html

Global sea ice in the largest area, Antartica, have been increasing.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg

The largest source of all heat and energy in the world has not seen an increase. That is the Pacific Ocean. Until the oceans warm, no warming is going to happen. The last 20 years we have been in warm phase of the PDO. That has changed and the next 20 years will be colder. The warm phases of our planet have lead to many of humanities greatest periods. Egypt, Rome, Greece, Mesopotania and the Nordic dynasties all thrived during warm periods.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...rbooker/3562141/Climate-change-chicanery.html

I believe that the money being spent, trying to stop GW can be used to help fight pollution, poverty, and terrorism. Over fishing of the oceans and the demise of the tropical rain forests are far serious concerns.

Many more articles can be found here:

http://icecap.us/index.php

I would love to discuss these issues with anyone, offline.

You sir, are on crack. Seriously. Everything you've quoted is VERY general statements from non renowned news sites. As an example, here is the actual map of loss of ice in the last 10 years.

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I'd be glad to talk about it off-line. However, if all you wish to do is quote sites which wish to 'deny it's happening at all', and can't quote one.. single.. third party.. I mean dude.. You're seriously going to argue with pictures of it, while when someone puts up a graph, OMG! LOOKIE!
 

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One must be careful which "scientific" resources they use to dispute climate change. What I have noticed is that there are a handful of scientists that, for what ever reason (perhaps even a good one as science is based on skepticism and constantly trying to refute the hypothesis), that are hell bent on coming up with data that supports their position. What I have also noticed is that there are some very big corporate interests at stake who don't want global warming to be true... or at the least don't want consumers to react to the problem. Said corporate interests can financially fund such scientists so they can do their research. This type of money based research is common in many fields such as prescription drug tests. So random links to places I have never heard of don't rather than top scientific journals and committees get much credence in my book.
 
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