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Wow. Some very well thought out and compelling arguments that further discount global warming; more than I would have expected...

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Therefore, I would expect that the inventor of the internet would make a compelling spokesperson.
Classic! :beer:
 

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Greg said:
Wow. Some very well thought out and compelling arguments that further discount global warming; more than I would have expected...


Classic! :beer:

I am truly surprised too and am GLAD there are other who understand to think for yourselves...dont accept everything you're told...

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Big Game said:
Therefore, I would expect that the inventor of the internet would make a compelling spokesperson.

Let's not attack.... Al Gore didn't claim he invented the interent and it makes me sick when conservatives blast him...
If it wasnt for Gores foresight - we may not be having a conversation on the net..


"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. "

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
 

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Greg said:
Wow. Some very well thought out and compelling arguments that further discount global warming; more than I would have expected...


Classic! :beer:

Political attacks... What BS... i get blasted for it... He gets a beer toast...

what a load of BS...

go ahead people - ruin the earth.. Buy into the conservative crap...
I'm taking the route of a cleaner earth - it's better for all of us...
 

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JimG. said:
There is no doubt that these more direct environmental clean up efforts make life more pleasant for the residents who live in those areas. And they eliminate true environmental hazards (oil spills, toxic waste, organic pollution from fertilizer). And it makes sense to use less fossil fuels because it's a limited and increasingly expensive resource.

I conserve as much as possible. But I don't fool myself into thinking my efforts or humanity's efforts as a whole are going to impact global climate. Consider that 1 good volcanic eruption will spew more CO2 into the environment than years of clean up efforts would remove and you must see the futility of thinking we can control these things.

Some things we can't control - some we can...

Why F up the planet??
 

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Greg said:
there simply is no scientific proof that the warming trends we are now experiencing wouldn't have happened anyway. A single volcanic erruption puts out a whole hell of a lot of pollution and Ma Natch has been able to recover from those for billions of years...


go ahead - take that risk... It's your kids, kids that will pay for the mistakes of the conservative dogma... Save a corporation... Who cares about trees and floods...
 

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dmc said:
Political attacks... What BS... i get blasted for it... He gets a beer toast...

what a load of BS...

go ahead people - ruin the earth.. Buy into the conservative crap...
I'm taking the route of a cleaner earth - it's better for all of us...

Man I dont think you read anything....cant you understand that we know so little about this planet and that natural deleption of the ozone is unstoppable???? Our contribution to it is soo miniscule that it barely matters...what you need to do is stop listening to propoganda pushed by the left you love so dearly...

Besides your policitcal attacks go far beyond that above comment from what i've seen...you are very set in your ways...nothing wrong with it...but not everyone has to agree with you...and when someone doesnt you ATTACK...

you simply don't like other peoples opinions if they don't match yours...

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Man I dont think you read anything....cant you understand that we know so little about this planet and that natural deleption of the ozone is unstoppable???? Our contribution to it is soo miniscule that it barely matters...what you need to do is stop listening to propoganda pushed by the left you love so dearly...

Besides you're policitcal attacks go far beyond that above comment from what i've seen...you are very set in your ways...nothing wrong with it...but not everyone has to agree with you...and when someone doesnt you ATTACK...

you simply don't like other peoples opinions if they don't match yours...

M


I've promised after our many internet wars not to respond to you and I'm not starting now...

Later... This whole political thing makes me so mad... I've been told not to get all political - and I've stopped for te most part - but as son as something conservative comes in - suddenly it's OK ...
 

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dmc said:
go ahead - take that risk... It's your kids, kids that will pay for the mistakes of the conservative dogma... Save a corporation... Who cares about trees and floods...
This comes from.....a parent?
 

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dmc said:
I've promised after our many internet wars not to respond to you and I'm not starting now...

Later...

Could care less if you respond or not..thats childish though...but whatever.......i can still say what I wish....and I believe there are many who share my opinion of you..so...keep up your left ways...see where it gets you...

In EXACTLY what way are you doing "your part"???? I think I remember that you do drive a gasoline burning Subaru......new house solar powered??? You're all talk..

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SkiDog said:
Could care less if you respond or not..thats childish though...but whatever.......i can still say what I wish....and I believe there are many who share my opinion of you..so...keep up your left ways...see where it gets you...

In EXACTLY what way are you doing "your part"???? I think I remember that you do drive a gasoline burning Subaru......new house solar powered??? You're all talk..

M

I promised Greg I'd be cool and have been...

have a nice life...
 

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Greg said:
This comes from.....a parent?

Is it even worth getting into it...nothing is going to change the others mind...in the end...only time will tell....

I will say though that if we turned off all the ozone depleting machinery we have tomorrow it would only slightly slow the "global warming" its CYCLICAL......

Man who said it earlier in this thread......."man" in general is pretty full of himself to think that we can control in any way this planet....

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dmc said:
Whatever.... Take the chance - roll the dice...
Whatever, nothing. You have no right to tell me what's best for my kids. You know nothing about what it takes to raise a child, and I have two so save it.

As far as my little affirmation of some light hearted semi-political banter, you're right; I probably should not have responded there. But please don't try to compare that to your blatant political post. Not even close... :roll:
 

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dmc said:
I promised Greg I'd be cool and have been...

have a nice life...

I dont understand whats "cool"???? Im not attacking you..im attacking what you claim to believe in...which is what you do all the time to others.......this is DEBATE...obviously that is something you can't engage in without getting overheated..

I didnt see Greg say..."stop you 2"

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dmc said:
Some things we can't control - some we can...

Why F up the planet??

I agree...and I do what I can to keep the Earth clean and safe for my kids.

I think we differ in the sense that you believe that human activity has a great impact on Earth's climate and that activity is a main contributor to global warming.

I do not believe that. I believe that in one massive shrug(cataclysm), the Earth could sweep every human off of it's face whether we try to prevent that or not. It's just not up to us.

But that does not mean I support ruining the Earth.
 

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I want to add that I am utterly baffled why this interesting topic has to turn political.

Is anyone so ignorant as to believe that one's commitment to a clean environment is based on political affiliation? Does anyone think that conservatives or liberals will be saved if there is a climatological catastrophe?

If anyone believes that then they've bought right into the brainwashing and political gruel that these politicos would have you swallow.

Even when we discuss a topic as important as this we have to stab each other with political barbs. The world won't improve based on a political agenda...it will improve through cooperation, something that politics discourages.

Politics suck!
 

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JimG. said:
I agree...and I do what I can to keep the Earth clean and safe for my kids.

I think we differ in the sense that you believe that human activity has a great impact on Earth's climate and that activity is a main contributor to global warming.

I do not believe that. I believe that in one massive shrug(cataclysm), the Earth could sweep every human off of it's face whether we try to prevent that or not. It's just not up to us.

But that does not mean I support ruining the Earth.


EXACTLY.....

but geez...are you allowed to have your own opinion??? Lets ask...ummmmm...oh forget it..

Again I ask anyone that believes we (people) are a major factor in Global warming to explain what part they personally do to stop the "spread"...??? Do they drive a hybrid? Do they run their car on cooking oil? Do they have solar power at home??? If all you do is talk about it then thats all it is TALK...

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JimG. said:
I want to add that I am utterly baffled why this interesting topic has to turn political.

Is anyone so ignorant as to believe that one's commitment to a clean environment is based on political affiliation? Does anyone think that conservatives or liberals will be saved if there is a climatological catastrophe?

If anyone believes that then they've bought right into the brainwashing and political gruel that these politicos would have you swallow.

Even when we discuss a topic as important as this we have to stab each other with political barbs. The world won't improve based on a political agenda...it will improve through cooperation, something that politics discourages.

Politics suck!


Well I think we can saftley say there is at least one person who thinks its politically motivated...

and it isnt ME..

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dmc said:
Political attacks... What BS... i get blasted for it... He gets a beer toast...
Oh.....and let's not forget - you were among the first to get subtly political here, and I let it slide...

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