Gore improvements....

[campgottagopee]

The day after I went to the Thai restaurant and had that spicy food, my buthurt.

I have a new hero!!!!

 

[witch hobble]

Funny how one thread can stimulate the synapses, buthurt the cerebral cortex.

 

[catskills]

This thread has some great segways

Urban dictionary has some interesting sentences that use butthurt. This is all new to me. I thought I would share since I doubt Urban dictionary uses SAT words :beer:

Examples of butthurt in sentence:
Adam got butthurt when Mike stole his bitch.
He got all butt hurt when she wouldnt give him a ride.

Note the Urban dictionary spelled wouldnt wrong.

This thread rules. Is it snowing yet?

 

[wintersyndrome]

You suck at the Internet. Keep lurking.

Dude, relax...your the one continuing to argue others on the internet...Which is like the special Olympics for couch potatoes.

 

[wintersyndrome]

I have a new hero!!!!

+1

 

[Tin Woodsman]

The day after I went to the Thai restaurant and had that spicy food, my buthurt.

You know what they say about a good curry.

It burns on the way in and on the way out.

 

[Newpylong]

Wait - I'm genuinely confused. I don't get why the use of "empirically" in that instance would be incorrect. The snowfall at Gore and other ski areas HAS been measured and observed over a statistically significant period of time, no?

Even if one doesn't believe the snowfall totals claimed by the ski areas themselves, then surely the maps posted by Harvey44 which were produced by the scientists at the NWS office in Albany meet the relevant tests. What am I missing?

Yes, it has been measured, and Gore doesn't get anymore than Mount Snow in Southern, VT. But that would be truth through evidence. Empirically assumes truth through observation or theory So you don't want to use that one!

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Here’s the thing with Tin, he pisses a lot of people off cause he is relentless and won’t give an inch. So people end up arguing against him because of his delivery not because of the facts he presents. Gore averages 150 inches of snow, he didn’t make that up, and it’s not a statistical anomaly over a season or 2. It’s a long term fact.

He said basically that Gore is a great mountain, but doesn’t get the same natural snow as many of its competitors that are further north and northeast. He’s right and I can’t see how anyone can fairly argue against it.

 

[campgottagopee]

Here’s the thing with Tin, he pisses a lot of people off cause he is relentless and won’t give an inch. So people end up arguing against him because of his delivery not because of the facts he presents. Gore averages 150 inches of snow, he didn’t make that up, and it’s not a statistical anomaly over a season or 2. It’s a long term fact.

He said basically that Gore is a great mountain, but doesn’t get the same natural snow as many of its competitors that are further north and northeast. He’s right and I can’t see how anyone can fairly argue against it.

I don't see where anyone is arguing with Tin on his stat's, but more his delivery. Presentation is everything and (to me) he comes off as a total ass and I have a hard time with that.

 

[tjf67]

Here’s the thing with Tin, he pisses a lot of people off cause he is relentless and won’t give an inch. So people end up arguing against him because of his delivery not because of the facts he presents. Gore averages 150 inches of snow, he didn’t make that up, and it’s not a statistical anomaly over a season or 2. It’s a long term fact.

He said basically that Gore is a great mountain, but doesn’t get the same natural snow as many of its competitors that are further north and northeast. He’s right and I can’t see how anyone can fairly argue against it.

It started with my statement they get the snow. I am sticking with that.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Here’s the thing with Tin, he pisses a lot of people off cause he is relentless and won’t give an inch. So people end up arguing against him because of his delivery not because of the facts he presents. Gore averages 150 inches of snow, he didn’t make that up, and it’s not a statistical anomaly over a season or 2. It’s a long term fact.

He said basically that Gore is a great mountain, but doesn’t get the same natural snow as many of its competitors that are further north and northeast. He’s right and I can’t see how anyone can fairly argue against it.

Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you.

I don't see where anyone is arguing with Tin on his stat's, but more his delivery. Presentation is everything and (to me) he comes off as a total ass and I have a hard time with that.

Sorry - that's not fair. I said "they don't get the snow". That's what started this entire conversation. That is irrefutable fact as compared to its peers in northern NE. What I received in return were posts exhorting me to "stay in VT" or some such, which was never even remotely my point. If people are going to get all pissy with me, bring up strawmen, invent fantastic conspiracies (e.g. AIG mgmt fiddling with Stowe snow totals while Gore remains true) and other such nonsense, I'm going to defend my position until a) the BS clears up and B) I'm proven wrong. I honestly don't see what's so controversial about saying "they don't get the snow" The facts are there for all to see.

It started with my statement they get the snow. I am sticking with that.

And you're still wrong.

 

[campgottagopee]

Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you.


Sorry - that's not fair. I said "they don't get the snow". That's what started this entire conversation. That is irrefutable fact as compared to its peers in northern NE. What I received in return were posts exhorting me to "stay in VT" or some such, which was never even remotely my point. If people are going to get all pissy with me, bring up strawmen, invent fantastic conspiracies (e.g. AIG mgmt fiddling with Stowe snow totals while Gore remains true) and other such nonsense, I'm going to defend my position until a) the BS clears up and B) I'm proven wrong. I honestly don't see what's so controversial about saying "they don't get the snow" The facts are there for all to see.



And you're still wrong.

I think you know what I mean---again NOBODY was arguing your facts because they are true. Telling people to "grow up" if they can't take the truth, in my book, is a real ass move. That's all I'm saying. Seems you enjoy tossing big words around and belittling people. Ifin that's your gig, good for you, but I think a different tone would be better excepted. just sayin'

 

[tjf67]

Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you.


Sorry - that's not fair. I said "they don't get the snow". That's what started this entire conversation. That is irrefutable fact as compared to its peers in northern NE. What I received in return were posts exhorting me to "stay in VT" or some such, which was never even remotely my point. If people are going to get all pissy with me, bring up strawmen, invent fantastic conspiracies (e.g. AIG mgmt fiddling with Stowe snow totals while Gore remains true) and other such nonsense, I'm going to defend my position until a) the BS clears up and B) I'm proven wrong. I honestly don't see what's so controversial about saying "they don't get the snow" The facts are there for all to see.



And you're still wrong.

If I made the statement "they get the snow" wouldn't you have to ask me my definition of that before you start disputing it? I keep going with it to tool you around

 

[Tin Woodsman]

I think you know what I mean---again NOBODY was arguing your facts because they are true. Telling people to "grow up" if they can't take the truth, in my book, is a real ass move. That's all I'm saying. Seems you enjoy tossing big words around and belittling people. Ifin that's your gig, good for you, but I think a different tone would be better excepted. just sayin'

The problem is, that was about 15 responses into the conversation. AFTER people told me to "stay in Southern VT" and other nonsense to defend Gore when it wasn't being being attacked. If I started out like that, then I could see you point.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

If I made the statement "they get the snow" wouldn't you have to ask me my definition of that before you start disputing it? I keep going with it to tool you around

Wheeeee... what a fun game.

Meh.

 

[witch hobble]

a) They get the snow. Just like Mt. Mansfield, only closer to NYC!

b) They get the snow that just doesn't build up in Connecticut.

c) Their trails and glades are often surprisingly skiable earlier in the season than ours up here at Whiteface.

a - patently false

b - true

c - pretty much true and I think this was the point he was trying to make.

Good to see Gore getting some love even from cross Champlain adversaries.

Attn: Em Stanton
After "More Gore" runs its course, consider "Gore. They get the snow!" It obviously gets people talkin.

 

[Harvey]

New Terrain at Gore

I had a chance to tour the new terrain with the GM at Gore this weekend.

One of the big highlights, to me, as a tree skier is Barkeater.

Lots of line options and 1000+ feet of verticle through some sweet hardwoods.

Check out pics and a "TR" of sorts ....a tour of new Gore Mountain Interconnect Terrain.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

I had a chance to tour the new terrain with the GM at Gore this weekend.

One of the big highlights, to me, as a tree skier is Barkeater.

Lots of line options and 1000+ feet of verticle through some sweet hardwoods.

Check out pics and a "TR" of sorts ....a tour of new Gore Mountain Interconnect Terrain.

Harv -

Great stuff as usual. Based on your experience, how often are the glades at that elevation likely to be skiable?

 

[ta&idaho]

Awesome pics and report. Really want to make it to Gore next year. Random question, but does anyone know the best way to drive there from the Syracuse area, and how long it takes?

 

[Harvey]

Thanks guys.

TA ... we've done a few items on driving at Harvey Road. This one called Drive Times to Ski Country ... has some information in the comments from a guy from Syracuse that may be helpful.

Tin Woodsman - as usual - a question right at the heart of the matter. I'm going to assume you mean - how many days can it be skied with lift service.

There are things that limit the number of days it will be open for sure.

Lower elevation - especially at the bottom of the run - makes snow harder to come by.

And ... access to Burnt Ridge is limited by a few different things.

Racing on Twister for one. I have asked Mike the same question nine ways to sunday.

"How can we access Burnt Ridge and Little Gore when there is racing on Twister?" You just can't. And racing is very important to Gore. It's not going away. (FYI I am 100% in favor of racing at Gore.)

Access to BR is also limited by the fact that the order of snowmaking is not going to change. Topridge, Ruby Run, to Sunway. The East Side, then the Summit, including the Dark Side, then the North Side. Burnt Ridge and Little Gore will come after all that is done.

So ... to answer the question ... I'm going to say in an above average, but not awesome year - like a B+ year - you could get 25+ days. Even that may be optimistic when you consider that midweek days get fewer lifts.

I had a great talk with Mike. He takes a lot of crapola from a lot of people. One constant criticism he gets .... how could you open more terrain when snowmaking is so precious?

Basically he said ... hey if someone offered you Burnt Ridge, would you turn it down? It's not like he had a choice between snowmaking and terrain.

And even if he did .... in the Adks getting access to that land is huge. With the river there, and a big 12" pipe connecting the mountain to it ... the budget crisis will pass, and Gore could be in a sweet position.

Sorry to digress.

Again thanks for the support.