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[RootDKJ]

There's only 4 threads out of 125 that could be considered AZ related.

 

[andyzee]

Didn't say YOU made any comments. Just seems like all the people joining over there and not shitting on AZ just stokes the fires of the people who are.

I don't see too much shitting not to say that there isn't any. Most anit-AZ message are aimed at over moderation and frustration. I am doing my best not to allow the board to be anti-AZ, I truly like this place and have met many good people. But I have become frustrated here as well as other sites by over controlling moderators. That is the reason I started that site. Believe it or not, it is not meant to be personal against the clits or any other membership here, but it is definitely a cry out against over controlling mods, both here and at other site. Grassi, still looking forward to hanging out with you chatting over some blueberry delights .


Greg,

Couple of things, I changed the name from noshitzone.com to noshitchat.com, do I still owe you royalties? Another thing, I do truly find the term polack offensive. Yes I use it for myself, but that's diffent, it's more a term of endearment. When you use it, it's more like using the N word. Know it may be hard to understand, but it truly does work that way. By you using it, it dehuminizes a person or persons. I had a lot of arguments with a former friend about this, notice, I say former.

 

[Trekchick]

Seemed it. But its hard to differentiate friend from foe these days. Lots of people shitting on this site and their supposed friends. Doesn't sit well with me. I think there are some people that needed an AZ vacation which is cool.

I couldn't agree more. Thanks for saying it......
BTW, how's the broken parts ?

Take a look at all my post over on Andy's site and you will see that I have not shit on AZ or any of it's members.

MR Evil, even though I have not taken the time to lurk on the other site, I can believe this, because even though I don't agree with you on this topic, I do believe that you're a man of good character. Not that what I think counts, but still, ......eh?

 

[Dr Skimeister]

Reading this thread gives me a feeling of, "Either you're with us or you're against us". I got the same feeling with the passage of the Patriot Act way back when.

I don't think that either site is intended to be exclusionary. NoShitChat is a space that allows expression that's not looked upon as acceptable in AZ. If it's anything more than that, I must be missing something.

Time to go wrestle a Rottweiler.

 

[ctenidae]

See my last post, it was a joke. I am pretty sure Greg knows mw well enough to know I was just busting his balls. I can't use imoticons from my iPhone

I know. I posted a Jackson Pollock.

That, too, is a joke.

 

[tjf67]

I don't see too much shitting not to say that there isn't any. Most anit-AZ message are aimed at over moderation and frustration. I am doing my best not to allow the board to be anti-AZ, I truly like this place and have met many good people. But I have become frustrated here as well as other sites by over controlling moderators. That is the reason I started that site. Believe it or not, it is not meant to be personal against the clits or any other membership here, but it is definitely a cry out against over controlling mods, both here and at other site. Grassi, still looking forward to hanging out with you chatting over some blueberry delights .


Greg,

Couple of things, I changed the name from noshitzone.com to noshitchat.com, do I still owe you royalties? Another thing, I do truly find the term polack offensive. Yes I use it for myself, but that's diffent, it's more a term of endearment. When you use it, it's more like using the N word. Know it may be hard to understand, but it truly does work that way. By you using it, it dehuminizes a person or persons. I had a lot of arguments with a former friend about this, notice, I say former.

Yo Andzee,
I can't go to that site during work hours. The profanity in the title is no no on the work computer.

 

[andyzee]

Reading this thread gives me a feeling of, "Either you're with us or you're against us". I got the same feeling with the passage of the Patriot Act way back when.

I don't think that either site is intended to be exclusionary. NoShitChat is a space that allows expression that's not looked upon as acceptable in AZ. If it's anything more than that, I must be missing something.

Time to go wrestle a Rottweiler.

Exactly, if anything I believe they can compliment each other, There's things posted here that the mods don't like and I can both understand and appreciate that, even if sometime I don't agree with all decision. Afterall this is Greg's site to run as he wishes. If that's the case, these folks can post at my site. By the same token, believe it or not, not all membership over there is from AZ (by the way, when do I get royalties on AZ?) and I'm always happy to steer people here cause I truly like this site and feel it is an important source for skiers. So my suggestion chill, enjoy life for it's too short and let's get back to the topic at hand, GSS

 

[andyzee]

Yo Andzee,
I can't go to that site during work hours. The profanity in the title is no no on the work computer.

Try nschat.net

 

[tjf67]

Harsh how?

The only thing impartial about me is the view I take in regards to the rules of this forum. I don't play favorites. The rules / vibe are what they are. Everyone is welcome. The 'rules' are on the door as you walk in. They really aren't all that uptight either. If this 'anal hippie' as often referred to by other members can hang out, express himself and respect the views of others......and not feel pushed down by the man, I really don't get what all the fuss is about. It's not power. It's just doing as the romans do. I feel no need to fight it. I'm the most crass bastard going on the Gathering Of The Vibes Board. I'll swear, talk about sex, mix it up with people, whatever over there, no problem.

When in Rome.

In eleven years there have been maybe eleven members banned. ALWAYS, ALWAYS it's because of repeated disrespect of very loose rules. Warnings are issued over and over and over. When they are ignored and ignored and ignored.........???? should be no surprise what happens.

I've read all the complaints about Alpinezone. Now there's this new place called the noshitzone where all of the complaints about alpinszone don't exist. It's sounds like freaking UTOPIA over there man. Have it! If you like it better. GREAT!!!!! If there are things that you want to discuss here, that's great too!!!!

In noshitzone, many members got what they wanted, but it's still not good enough? Come on man. When is enough enough.

but if you all must continue to fight the power. I guess I'll engage even though right about now, my palm is practically permanently attached to my face with keeping this debate alive.

Dead head when your name pops onto the screen stinkie hippie is not the first thing in my head. Cheap SOB is. Joke really at least I am laughing. Pretty much at all of you

 

[Greg]

I don't see too much shitting not to say that there isn't any. Most anit-AZ message are aimed at over moderation and frustration. I am doing my best not to allow the board to be anti-AZ, I truly like this place and have met many good people. But I have become frustrated here as well as other sites by over controlling moderators. That is the reason I started that site. Believe it or not, it is not meant to be personal against the clits or any other membership here, but it is definitely a cry out against over controlling mods, both here and at other site. Grassi, still looking forward to hanging out with you chatting over some blueberry delights .

Greg,

Couple of things, I changed the name from noshitzone.com to noshitchat.com, do I still owe you royalties?

"Over-moderation" is the biggest crock term going. Either a forum is moderated, or it isn't. We try our best to adhere by the policies that are clearly defined here and have been in place for some time. We're more than fair, and try to give the benefit of the doubt in every case. A more accurate assessment of the situation is that we've been under-moderating for the past two years.

It's no secret that you've always wanted to run a forum, Andy, and we all know your other attempts were....well, less than successful. So you took the short-cut ambulance-chasing route and capitalized on an unfortunate situation here. Congratulations. You should be proud of your efforts. As a matter of fact, you started this thread knowing your forum would be mentioned just to siphon off some more members. There's really no other reason for it.

Another thing, I do truly find the term polack offensive. Yes I use it for myself, but that's diffent, it's more a term of endearment. When you use it, it's more like using the N word. Know it may be hard to understand, but it truly does work that way. By you using it, it dehuminizes a person or persons. I had a lot of arguments with a former friend about this, notice, I say former.

I'm 50% Slovak. Isn't that close enough? Anyway, I guess I get what you're saying. Like all the other cynical online personas that are starting to crop up, it's really hard to read whether you're being sincere or not, but if you are, I'm sorry.

Speaking of online personas, I'm disappointed in all the cynicism lately. There's one person in particular who I considered a friend offline, and his new persona is not anything in line with who I thought he was. He always seemed to me like a quiet gentle person, but I've seen a bit of a dark side over there. Looks like your forum brings the worst out in people too, Andy. Another milestone.

AZ has become a community that helps facilitate face-to-face interactions with members skiing and riding together. Precisely why I try to keep it real online and post in a way that represent who I am in real life and encourage others to do so. Seems like some prefer to create different online personalities just to act like douchebags, Perhaps they didn't act out enough as a kid or something.

At the end of the day, different strokes for different folks. I get all that we're all free to post where we want. This is the last I'll say about it. I'm already sure my comments will make for some good material over there...

 

[andyzee]

Greg, I'll get back to you on some of your points, some valid, some not, unfortunately I have this work thing that keeps on getting in the way.

 

[Paul]

Reading this thread gives me a feeling of, "Either you're with us or you're against us". I got the same feeling with the passage of the Patriot Act way back when.

I don't think that either site is intended to be exclusionary. NoShitChat is a space that allows expression that's not looked upon as acceptable in AZ. If it's anything more than that, I must be missing something.

Time to go wrestle a Rottweiler.

Exactly, if anything I believe they can compliment each other, There's things posted here that the mods don't like and I can both understand and appreciate that, even if sometime I don't agree with all decision. Afterall this is Greg's site to run as he wishes. If that's the case, these folks can post at my site. By the same token, believe it or not, not all membership over there is from AZ (by the way, when do I get royalties on AZ?) and I'm always happy to steer people here cause I truly like this site and feel it is an important source for skiers. So my suggestion chill, enjoy life for it's too short and let's get back to the topic at hand, GSS

These.

I think everyone needs to step back and get a little perspective.

I keep seeing a lot of "It's Greg's site, he can do what he wants" True, however it may bear mentioning that AlpineZone.com is a lot more than just a discussion forum.Keep in mind there's a whole site with information, news feeds, ski area descriptions etc... (Just erase the /forums from the url, lotsa good stuff there) There's also a rather impressive number of hooks into the New England ski industry in general. The AZ ski area challenge is a really useful and interesting service that requires the buy-in from the industry folks.
Think of AZ as less of Greg's personal sandbox that he let's people play in, and more of a business. Its a business at least partially sustained by advertising. How many businesses allow employees and customers to hang-around on their sales floor in their underwear telling dirty jokes, drinking, smoking, whatever? The reason for the moderation to a PG-13 level is at least in part to make the site appealing not only to folks of all ages (I've already told my 9-year-old that I will not allow her to join, just yet) but also to these same ski area professionals who take the time to participate in the AZ challenge (and other things as well, how many of you have chatted with Win Smith here?)
Imagine you need a new car, and walk into Campgottagopee's dealership. The salesmen are crude and occasionally offensive to many. There's a free-for-all atmosphere, and a lack of professional courtesy. Are you going to buy a car there, or maybe shop around some more?
Now, the noshitchat is like the employee lounge, it keeps the crudity off of the sales floor, and puts it in the back room where it belongs. Funny thing about internet forums, especially regional ones, is that people with similar interests meet and get to know one-another. In many cases real friendships are formed. A result of this is that certain "boundaries" can be expanded a bit. A little stone-busting here and there... And some of us just want to be able to socialize without the filter once in awhile. That's really the point of Andy's site (despite the catalyst of its creation, I'm sure the kernel was there for awhile) It is really not meant to be counter to AZ, but complimentary. It's that "back room" where AZers (and others) can go to vent, blow-off steam, yell, rant, rave, talk politics, curse, get annoyed by the real OSME and call 2knees an asshole. It keeps the seedier element out of AZ allowing it to still be the main resource for NE outdoor sports information and discussion.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Ya, but you said it in a hatefully way, not cool!

Busing 1/4 polish myself that really hurt man, i demand and apology to Andy and everyone else of Polish ansestry or I will complain to the mods.

Are you like twelve?

 

[deadheadskier]

I don't see too much shitting not to say that there isn't any. Most anit-AZ message are aimed at over moderation and frustration. I am doing my best not to allow the board to be anti-AZ, I truly like this place and have met many good people. But I have become frustrated here as well as other sites by over controlling moderators. That is the reason I started that site. Believe it or not, it is not meant to be personal against the clits or any other membership here, but it is definitely a cry out against over controlling mods, both here and at other site. Grassi, still looking forward to hanging out with you chatting over some blueberry delights .


Greg,

Couple of things, I changed the name from noshitzone.com to noshitchat.com, do I still owe you royalties? Another thing, I do truly find the term polack offensive. Yes I use it for myself, but that's diffent, it's more a term of endearment. When you use it, it's more like using the N word. Know it may be hard to understand, but it truly does work that way. By you using it, it dehuminizes a person or persons. I had a lot of arguments with a former friend about this, notice, I say former.

But if I called you a Pollack on your site it would be perfectly fine yes? I mean, you've got a guy, white as rice, pretending to be a black guy on your forum. If a black guy shows up are you going to tell Paul he can't be Clarence anymore? Bit of a double standard is all I'm saying. If I sincerely did offend you by saying the 'p word' than I sincerely do offer an apology. Or I could say I'm Polish, then I could say the p word all I want right?

Speaking of double standards. If NSZ was started because of your dislike with over moderation and most of your charter members were beating the same freedom drum as you, then how come EVERY SINGLE call for moderation on this forum in the past week has come from the drummers? You don't have to answer that question. I know why. It's a GAME. It's what you all get off on. Some call it pot stirring. Many call it being a troll. It's all about attention. Me, me, me. This very thread that I'm typing in right now is just a little game for Andy. iwon't the fraud persona for Oldsnowboarderfrommaine came over all in huff over the Nazi shirt and how we hadn't gotten to it in a flash. Um, OSME used to speak frequently as an atheist on here. I can't look it up because he deleted all of his posts, but almost every thread that referenced faith had him expressing that thought. So now all of a sudden he's a card caring Jew looking for moderation? Marcski came into this thread specifically as well to play games. While your site isn't entirely anti - Alpine Zone, it sure comes across as a boot camp for trolling over here.

Just because I'm a moderator doesn't mean I'll always bite my tongue and patronize your belief structure Andy. You all say your tired of the over moderation. As Greg has said, this place is far from over moderated. And over moderation isn't what has most over there upset. What people are upset about isn't the act of over moderation, it's the fact that it prevents them from trolling, calling attention to themselves at the expense and often times disrespect of others. Grown men whining that they can't play their games wherever they want, whenever they want and beating the censorship drum. Complete load of crap.

Don't try and legitimize Andy. We're not idiots.

But the good news is there's the NSZ now where all the playas can ball anyway they want. Perfect. Just don't use the 'p word'

peace

 

[2knees]

These.

I think everyone needs to step back and get a little perspective.

I keep seeing a lot of "It's Greg's site, he can do what he wants" True, however it may bear mentioning that AlpineZone.com is a lot more than just a discussion forum.Keep in mind there's a whole site with information, news feeds, ski area descriptions etc... (Just erase the /forums from the url, lotsa good stuff there) There's also a rather impressive number of hooks into the New England ski industry in general. The AZ ski area challenge is a really useful and interesting service that requires the buy-in from the industry folks.
Think of AZ as less of Greg's personal sandbox that he let's people play in, and more of a business. Its a business at least partially sustained by advertising. How many businesses allow employees and customers to hang-around on their sales floor in their underwear telling dirty jokes, drinking, smoking, whatever? The reason for the moderation to a PG-13 level is at least in part to make the site appealing not only to folks of all ages (I've already told my 9-year-old that I will not allow her to join, just yet) but also to these same ski area professionals who take the time to participate in the AZ challenge (and other things as well, how many of you have chatted with Win Smith here?)
Imagine you need a new car, and walk into Campgottagopee's dealership. The salesmen are crude and occasionally offensive to many. There's a free-for-all atmosphere, and a lack of professional courtesy. Are you going to buy a car there, or maybe shop around some more?
Now, the noshitchat is like the employee lounge, it keeps the crudity off of the sales floor, and puts it in the back room where it belongs. Funny thing about internet forums, especially regional ones, is that people with similar interests meet and get to know one-another. In many cases real friendships are formed. A result of this is that certain "boundaries" can be expanded a bit. A little stone-busting here and there... And some of us just want to be able to socialize without the filter once in awhile. That's really the point of Andy's site (despite the catalyst of its creation, I'm sure the kernel was there for awhile) It is really not meant to be counter to AZ, but complimentary. It's that "back room" where AZers (and others) can go to vent, blow-off steam, yell, rant, rave, talk politics, curse, get annoyed by the real OSME and call 2knees an asshole. It keeps the seedier element out of AZ allowing it to still be the main resource for NE outdoor sports information and discussion.

i get called an asshole on most forums, not just andy's. :razz:

 

[thetrailboss]

Is it ski season yet?

 

[Paul]

i get called an asshole on most forums, not just andy's. :razz:

Oh yeah...


BTW, you riding on Sat?

 

[ALLSKIING]

i get called an asshole on most forums, not just andy's. :razz:

Thats cuz you are.........:lol::wink:

 

[andyzee]

Thats cuz you are.........:lol::wink:

+1

 

[Puck it]

iwon't the fraud persona for Oldsnowboarderfrommaine came over all in huff over the Nazi shirt and how we hadn't gotten to it in a flash. Um, OSME used to speak frequently as an atheist on here.

I did not know this. Now I am:angry:!!!!!!!. Made feel like crap, when there was no ill intended. Sometimes, I really hate the internet.