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[Greg]

iwon't the fraud persona for Oldsnowboarderfrommaine

I know I said I was done, but discovering the whole iwon't/OSME new beginning/therapy thing was BS really sucked. Yep, it's all a sham. Every one of us fell for it and supported Jerry. Many of us even chastised GSS for not being supportive enough. It's not the first time members came to AZ looking for support during times of real personal tragedy. Remember when one of our own lost his wife? Many of us were there to support him. Warp Daddy is going through a pretty intense recovery period after open heart surgery this summer and AZers are there to encourage him and keep his spirits up. There was also another personal incident when a member posted here looking for support during a difficult time which has an ironic tie-in to this whole situation. I won't go into that, but most of you know what I'm talking about. Whether or not you think personal stuff should be kept out of the forums, it does happen. But good ole Jerry found it funny to make a mockery of the good will of most AZers. That was one of the ultimate displays of douchebaggery that I can ever recall here.

 

[RootDKJ]

These.

I think everyone needs to step back and get a little perspective.

I keep seeing a lot of "It's Greg's site, he can do what he wants" True, however it may bear mentioning that AlpineZone.com is a lot more than just a discussion forum.Keep in mind there's a whole site with information, news feeds, ski area descriptions etc... (Just erase the /forums from the url, lotsa good stuff there) There's also a rather impressive number of hooks into the New England ski industry in general. The AZ ski area challenge is a really useful and interesting service that requires the buy-in from the industry folks.
Think of AZ as less of Greg's personal sandbox that he let's people play in, and more of a business. Its a business at least partially sustained by advertising. How many businesses allow employees and customers to hang-around on their sales floor in their underwear telling dirty jokes, drinking, smoking, whatever? The reason for the moderation to a PG-13 level is at least in part to make the site appealing not only to folks of all ages (I've already told my 9-year-old that I will not allow her to join, just yet) but also to these same ski area professionals who take the time to participate in the AZ challenge (and other things as well, how many of you have chatted with Win Smith here?)
Imagine you need a new car, and walk into Campgottagopee's dealership. The salesmen are crude and occasionally offensive to many. There's a free-for-all atmosphere, and a lack of professional courtesy. Are you going to buy a car there, or maybe shop around some more?
Now, the noshitchat is like the employee lounge, it keeps the crudity off of the sales floor, and puts it in the back room where it belongs. Funny thing about internet forums, especially regional ones, is that people with similar interests meet and get to know one-another. In many cases real friendships are formed. A result of this is that certain "boundaries" can be expanded a bit. A little stone-busting here and there... And some of us just want to be able to socialize without the filter once in awhile. That's really the point of Andy's site (despite the catalyst of its creation, I'm sure the kernel was there for awhile) It is really not meant to be counter to AZ, but complimentary. It's that "back room" where AZers (and others) can go to vent, blow-off steam, yell, rant, rave, talk politics, curse, get annoyed by the real OSME and call 2knees an asshole. It keeps the seedier element out of AZ allowing it to still be the main resource for NE outdoor sports information and discussion.

Well said Paul

 

[ALLSKIING]

But good ole Jerry found it funny to make a mockery of the good will of most AZers.

Thats actually really sick and sad that someone would do that...Infact to me thats worth a ban!

 

[Greg]

worth a ban!

Stop overmoderating.

 

[wa-loaf]

I did not know this. Now I am:angry:!!!!!!!. Made feel like crap, when there was no ill intended. Sometimes, I really hate the internet.

OSME reaction was a bit overblown, but you guys are mixing up religion and heritage. You don't have to be a practicing jew to be effected that stuff.

 

[wa-loaf]

These.

I think everyone needs to step back and get a little perspective.

I keep seeing a lot of "It's Greg's site, he can do what he wants" True, however it may bear mentioning that AlpineZone.com is a lot more than just a discussion forum.Keep in mind there's a whole site with information, news feeds, ski area descriptions etc... (Just erase the /forums from the url, lotsa good stuff there) There's also a rather impressive number of hooks into the New England ski industry in general. The AZ ski area challenge is a really useful and interesting service that requires the buy-in from the industry folks.
Think of AZ as less of Greg's personal sandbox that he let's people play in, and more of a business. Its a business at least partially sustained by advertising. How many businesses allow employees and customers to hang-around on their sales floor in their underwear telling dirty jokes, drinking, smoking, whatever? The reason for the moderation to a PG-13 level is at least in part to make the site appealing not only to folks of all ages (I've already told my 9-year-old that I will not allow her to join, just yet) but also to these same ski area professionals who take the time to participate in the AZ challenge (and other things as well, how many of you have chatted with Win Smith here?)
Imagine you need a new car, and walk into Campgottagopee's dealership. The salesmen are crude and occasionally offensive to many. There's a free-for-all atmosphere, and a lack of professional courtesy. Are you going to buy a car there, or maybe shop around some more?
Now, the noshitchat is like the employee lounge, it keeps the crudity off of the sales floor, and puts it in the back room where it belongs. Funny thing about internet forums, especially regional ones, is that people with similar interests meet and get to know one-another. In many cases real friendships are formed. A result of this is that certain "boundaries" can be expanded a bit. A little stone-busting here and there... And some of us just want to be able to socialize without the filter once in awhile. That's really the point of Andy's site (despite the catalyst of its creation, I'm sure the kernel was there for awhile) It is really not meant to be counter to AZ, but complimentary. It's that "back room" where AZers (and others) can go to vent, blow-off steam, yell, rant, rave, talk politics, curse, get annoyed by the real OSME and call 2knees an asshole. It keeps the seedier element out of AZ allowing it to still be the main resource for NE outdoor sports information and discussion.

Well said. I think most of us who are spending time on Any's site are just looking for a different outlet and have not left AZ. Andy did have a built in user base that followed, but except for a couple banned folks over there AZ hasn't lost any members or participation.

 

[ERJ-145CA]

OSME reaction was a bit overblown, but you guys are mixing up religion and heritage. You don't have to be a practicing jew to be effected that stuff.

Exactly, nazis didn't/don't care if you're athiest or religious only if there was/is "Jewish blood".

 

[MR. evil]

Are you like twelve?

It was a joke. Go back and read a little more of the thread and you will see I made that clear.

 

[Greg]

Well said. I think most of us who are spending time on Any's site are just looking for a different outlet and have not left AZ. Andy did have a built in user base that followed, but except for a couple banned folks over there AZ hasn't lost any members or participation.

Perhaps. And I said my peace. This whole thing was settling down and then Andy just had to reopen the can of worms. Now how about you guys discuss what you want over there, and we'll discuss what we want here and we'll all try to refrain from blatant overlap just to start flame wars. Deal?

 

[thetrailboss]

Can we talk about skiing?

 

[wa-loaf]

Perhaps. And I said my peace. This whole thing was settling down and then Andy just had to reopen the can of worms. Now how about you guys discuss what you want over there, and we'll discuss what we want here and we'll all try to refrain from blatant overlap just to start flame wars. Deal?

I think that's the plan. Let's go skiing!

 

[Paul]

Can we talk about skiing?

I think there's a forum around here somewhere for that. :lol:

 

[andyzee]

Perhaps. And I said my peace. This whole thing was settling down and then Andy just had to reopen the can of worms. Now how about you guys discuss what you want over there, and we'll discuss what we want here and we'll all try to refrain from blatant overlap just to start flame wars. Deal?

Greg, I'll get back to you on some of your points, some valid, some not, unfortunately I have this work thing that keeps on getting in the way.

Where should I address, here or there? Really do want to address some things you wrote, just have to find the time it deserves.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Stop overmoderating.

My bad..I just love the power........:lol::smash:

 

[thetrailboss]

I think there's a forum around here somewhere for that. :lol:

Yeah really! :lol:

 

[2knees]

Oh yeah...


BTW, you riding on Sat?

cant, dee picked up an extra shift friday night so i gots the kiddies by myself.

 

[snowmonster]

Can we talk about skiing?

Good idea -- except there's no snow to slide on just yet. But, summer's officially over on Tuesday. Time to get the skis out of storage, strip off the summer wax, tune 'em, wax 'em again, reset and test the bindings and get some work done on the boots.

Boston area ski movie premiers:

10/19 - In Deep (MSP)
11/11,12,13,14 - Dynasty (WM)
11/18 - Edge of Never
11/21 - Session (TGR)

And, oh yeah, the Sox are finally getting it together!

 

[Puck it]

OSME reaction was a bit overblown, but you guys are mixing up religion and heritage. You don't have to be a practicing jew to be effected that stuff.

Read the picture caption that posted with the pic. There was no ill intended in the pic. What I should have done was post the link. It has nothing to do with that. I am PO'ed at the posing. That is just plain sick, I thought I was apologizing to someone that was Jewsih and truly offended.

 

[wa-loaf]

Read the picture caption that posted with the pic. There was no ill intended in the pic. What I should have done was post the link. It has nothing to do with that. I am PO'ed at the posing. That is just plain sick, I thought I was apologizing to someone that was Jewsih and truly offended.

?? I don't know if OSME is posing. I think he is Jewish. Blowing it out of proportion, maybe.

 

[deadheadskier]

?? I don't know if OSME is posing. I think he is Jewish. Blowing it out of proportion, maybe.

If he is, it certainly makes it hard for anyone to believe him with the whole fraud iwont persona.