Gss

[MR. evil]

You and your wife were people I confided in and thought were supportive at the time. Clearly, I was wrong.

WOW, I must have posting while really drunk or something, because I don't remember writing anything about you or Brian over there in ANY thread. Pretty sure my wife hasn’t either. I am keeping AZ and its member’s separate from what goes on over there and Andy is encouraging everyone else to do the same. However not everyone is on that page yet. The reason I am using the same handle over there is for transparency. As soon as I joined Andy’s site I sent Greg a PM letting him know I was over there, wanted to make sure things were cool between us, told him what my handle was and encouraged him to read any and all of my posts as I have nothing to hide. Feel free to do the same. 99.9% of all my posts on Andy’s site involve me busting my friend’s stones and them doing the same back. The sort of thing that would be considered inappropriate behavior here. People need to stop assuming that anyone that posts there is anti AZ.

 

[severine]

WOW, I must have posting while really drunk or something, because I don't remember writing anything about you or Brian over there in ANY thread. Pretty sure my wife hasn’t either. I am keeping AZ and its member’s separate from what goes on over there and Andy is encouraging everyone else to do the same. However not everyone is on that page yet. The reason I am using the same handle over there is for transparency. As soon as I joined Andy’s site I sent Greg a PM letting him know I was over there, wanted to make sure things were cool between us, told him what my handle was and encouraged him to read any and all of my posts as I have nothing to hide. Feel free to do the same. 99.9% of all my posts on Andy’s site involve me busting my friend’s stones and them doing the same back. The sort of thing that would be considered inappropriate behavior here. People need to stop assuming that anyone that posts there is anti AZ.

Others have posted those comments, several times over in some great "cluing in" type discussions. Never accused you of posting anything... Sometimes it's what you don't do that speaks volumes... or the other in between lines things you suggest.

I wonder how the rest of you would feel if you were in our shoes? Apparently there is no empathy left in the world. And nobody else makes mistakes.

 

[MR. evil]

O. Never accused you of posting anything...

Well to me, what you wrote below does come across as a veiled accusation of sorts

You and your wife were people I confided in and thought were supportive at the time. Clearly, I was wrong. About that and many other things....

I will adress the rest of your post regarding what I haven't said later. I have some work to do.

 

[tjf67]

So if one posts on the internet, one should invent a completely different persona and pretend to be what they're not?

Explains a lot lately....

y

 

[2knees]

Seemed it. But its hard to differentiate friend from foe these days. Lots of people shitting on this site and their supposed friends. Doesn't sit well with me. I think there are some people that needed an AZ vacation which is cool.

So you took the short-cut ambulance-chasing route and capitalized on an unfortunate situation here.

Speaking of online personas, I'm disappointed in all the cynicism lately. There's one person in particular who I considered a friend offline, and his new persona is not anything in line with who I thought he was. He always seemed to me like a quiet gentle person, but I've seen a bit of a dark side over there. Looks like your forum brings the worst out in people too, Andy. Another milestone.

I think that's the heart of the problem. There are people, myself included, who considered some of these people friends. Shocking, I know! And on an internet forum no less! But this isn't just an online place to play with your imaginary friends. I know quite a few AZers in person, skied with them (more often than with my own spouse!), gone out drinking with them... these are real people and people I thought had my back. It's disheartening to discover that they really feel otherwise and even worse to read it online posted in a forum that cropped up almost as a big F-U to the community where I met them. Makes you wonder which is the real persona?

this is ridiculous.

some of us who post there, ok, actually i wont speak for anyone else.

I "left" cause i dont like trailboss' and dhs moderation style. If that makes me a traitor and a backstabber, i'm at a loss for words. You guys run your board one way, and when I want to i'll post somewhere else so as not to interfere with your operation. pretty simple really, and most certainly not about having backs, being two faced or a fraud. You need to be careful when you assume people's reasoning and ambiguously lump everything together. being upset about what happened to gss is laughable, to me, but apparently struck some nerves with other people. personally, i just dont give a shit.

Andy's site is funny, crude, and downright disgusting and rude......right up my alley. i'm gonna post here and there. but i'm not gonna be posting about that site here or az there. now everybody simmer the fuck down and pull a tube or something.

shit, i said fuck. wrong board.

 

[andyzee]

Severine,
Just noticed some of the things you started writing. I am truly amazed that you can take this so personal,

* No one, including my self is turning their backs on AZ (Greg owes me royalties on that acronym)

* There was one stupid remark made by GSS against, I made the mistake of leaving it up for a day but eventually tookit off an apologized.

* This is the internet, my site is just another forum people chose to post on. That makes them traitors?

* And last but not least, and I'm sure I could speak for all when I say this, We all love you and think you are the best!

Greg,

I know you may think other wise, but believe me, when I started this thread it wasn't for self promotion. Go back to my original post. It was just being sarcastic about all the GSS talk going on here, mind you, I won't complain about the publicity

I no longer wanted to post in this thread because that seemed to be the perception, but when I saw Sevrine's post, I had to.

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Greg]

this is ridiculous.

some of us who post there, ok, actually i wont speak for anyone else.

I "left" cause i dont like trailboss' and dhs moderation style. If that makes me a traitor and a backstabber, i'm at a loss for words. You guys run your board one way, and when I want to i'll post somewhere else so as not to interfere with your operation. pretty simple really, and most certainly not about having backs, being two faced or a fraud. You need to be careful when you assume people's reasoning and ambiguously lump everything together. being upset about what happened to gss is laughable, to me, but apparently struck some nerves with other people. personally, i just dont give a shit.

Not sure why you're quoting me, bro. I wasn't referring to you, and we already had it out privately.

And I certainly wouldn't consider you "a quiet gentle person"... :lol:

 

[severine]

I also did not accuse the group of people who post on NSC as being traitors. However, I am discouraged by the side of people I'm seeing that I was not aware of before. Even if it is attributed to "internet persona" makes you wonder what lies beneath the facades.

Andy, I know you tried to do right by it in the end and I do appreciate that.

Rough day here... not because of this. Perhaps I should post when I'm stressed out.

 

[RootDKJ]

People need to stop assuming that anyone that posts there is anti AZ.

Indeed. I enjoy AZ, a lot. There's some great folks on here that I'm really hoping to have an opportunity to ski with this season. I'm seriouslly planning to even make the Sundown bump fest in March. I'm planning to have a kick ass season, and hope I can share that with some folks.

this is ridiculous.

some of us who post there, ok, actually i wont speak for anyone else.

I "left" cause i dont like trailboss' and dhs moderation style. If that makes me a traitor and a backstabber, i'm at a loss for words. You guys run your board one way, and when I want to i'll post somewhere else so as not to interfere with your operation. pretty simple really, and most certainly not about having backs, being two faced or a fraud. You need to be careful when you assume people's reasoning and ambiguously lump everything together. being upset about what happened to gss is laughable, to me, but apparently struck some nerves with other people. personally, i just dont give a shit.

Andy's site is funny, crude, and downright disgusting and rude......right up my alley. i'm gonna post here and there. but i'm not gonna be posting about that site here or az there. now everybody simmer the fuck down and pull a tube or something.

shit, i said fuck. wrong board.

I lol'd. Seriouslly, Between, Paul, 2knees and Mr Evil, they've summed it up. Paul's explination of the "back room" is spot on. How many folks here, have bitched about their bosses or company or co-workers (that you normally get along with) in the "back room"?

 

[gorgonzola]

holy shmolly this intraweb's some crazy shit :argue:

 

[Greg]

There was one stupid remark made by GSS against, I made the mistake of leaving it up for a day but eventually tookit off an apologized.

So it didn't take long for you to start moderating your own "freedom of expression" board? :lol: Seriously, Andy, you should have left it. You already compromised what your forum was supposed to be about. And why do you need all those moderators? :blink:

:razz:

Greg,

I know you may think other wise, but believe me, when I started this thread it wasn't for self promotion. Go back to my original post. It was just being sarcastic about all the GSS talk going on here, mind you, I won't complain about the publicity

I no longer wanted to post in this thread because that seemed to be the perception, but when I saw Sevrine's post, I had to.

I call bullshit. You can't honestly tell me that a small part of you didn't think your board would come up in this discussion, can you?

Can't we all just get along?

We can. And again, I spoke my peace and I give you props Andy for taking it in stride. To an outsider, this whole thing probably does look a lot like 10th grade. :lol: Anyway, good luck with your board. I get the appeal of it, I guess, just not really my kind of scene. I know running a forum is something you always wanted to do and I guess the only thing left for me to say is "you're welcome."

 

[2knees]

Not sure why you're quoting me, bro. I wasn't referring to you, and we already had it out privately.

And I certainly wouldn't consider you "a quiet gentle person"... :lol:

just makin sure people dont think i was posting on andy's cause of the gss thing and to make sure, publicly, that we're still cool. as dumb as that sounds.

 

[Paul]

I'm getting a bit Verklempt.

Tawk amongst y'selves...

Srsly, everyone just take a deep breath and relax. Like any other relationship there's going to be some bumps and disagreements. Things will work themselves out. Hey, let's have a big AZ gathering and hug it out!

 

[Paul]

just makin sure people dont think i was posting on andy's cause of the gss thing and to make sure, publicly, that we're still cool. as dumb as that sounds.

One look at your avi tells me all I need to know.

 

[Grassi21]

this is ridiculous.

some of us who post there, ok, actually i wont speak for anyone else.

I "left" cause i dont like trailboss' and dhs moderation style. If that makes me a traitor and a backstabber, i'm at a loss for words. You guys run your board one way, and when I want to i'll post somewhere else so as not to interfere with your operation. pretty simple really, and most certainly not about having backs, being two faced or a fraud. You need to be careful when you assume people's reasoning and ambiguously lump everything together. being upset about what happened to gss is laughable, to me, but apparently struck some nerves with other people. personally, i just dont give a shit.

Andy's site is funny, crude, and downright disgusting and rude......right up my alley. i'm gonna post here and there. but i'm not gonna be posting about that site here or az there. now everybody simmer the fuck down and pull a tube or something.

shit, i said fuck. wrong board.

Not sure why you're quoting me, bro. I wasn't referring to you, and we already had it out privately.

And I certainly wouldn't consider you "a quiet gentle person"... :lol:

i wasn't referring to you either dip-shit. ;-) now what was i supposed to pull.....

 

[RootDKJ]

i wasn't referring to you either dip-shit. ;-) now what was i supposed to pull.....

ahhhhhhhh! dude!

 

[andyzee]

So it didn't take long for you to start moderating your own "freedom of expression" board? :lol: Seriously, Andy, you should have left it. You already compromised what your forum was supposed to be about. And why do you need all those moderators?

Wrong, I shouldn't have left it. One of the few rules I have is no personal attacks. When I originally wrote that I meant more in line with no attacking other users, But that was a form of attacking another user. As you know, I have been involved in many flame wars on the net and in none of them has my wife been attacked nor have I attacked anyone else's wife. So after thinking about it, I thought it was wrong. I did not delete, but I did take offending references out and stated why they were taken out.

I call bullshit. You can't honestly tell me that a small part of you didn't think your board would come up in this discussion, can you?

Of course I thought there was a possibility, but it truly wasn't my intent. There have been numerous occasions where I started thread in a sarcastic manner and that exactly what this was. I found it amazing how many posts GSS was still generating.

We can. And again, I spoke my peace and I give you props Andy for taking it in stride. To an outsider, this whole thing probably does look a lot like 10th grade. :lol: Anyway, good luck with your board. I get the appeal of it, I guess, just not really my kind of scene. I know running a forum is something you always wanted to do and I guess the only thing left for me to say is "you're welcome."

I thank you and want you to know that I truly appreciate this site and the friendships I have formed here. I hope they are in no way affected because of some stupid forum. Further more, I have always pushed AZ and will continue to push it as a great resource for skiers. But, doesn't mean I always have to agree with all that happens there.

 

[Puck it]

So it didn't take long for you to start moderating your own "freedom of expression" board? :lol: Seriously, Andy, you should have left it. You already compromised what your forum was supposed to be about. And why do you need all those moderators? :blink:

:razz:



I call bullshit. You can't honestly tell me that a small part of you didn't think your board would come up in this discussion, can you?



We can. And again, I spoke my peace and I give you props Andy for taking it in stride. To an outsider, this whole thing probably does look a lot like 10th grade. :lol: Anyway, good luck with your board. I get the appeal of it, I guess, just not really my kind of scene. I know running a forum is something you always wanted to do and I guess the only thing left for me to say is "you're welcome."

I am getting pretty ripped over there especially from DMC. And yes. I am not standing by and letting it happen.

 

[andyzee]

I'm getting a bit Verklempt.

Tawk amongst y'selves...

Srsly, everyone just take a deep breath and relax. Like any other relationship there's going to be some bumps and disagreements. Things will work themselves out. Hey, let's have a big AZ gathering and hug it out!

No shit!

 

[Trekchick]

I know you may think other wise, but believe me, when I started this thread it wasn't for self promotion. Go back to my original post. It was just being sarcastic about all the GSS talk going on here, mind you, I won't complain about the publicity

I call BS on this!
The start of this thread is viral marketing at its best.

IMHO Greg and the AZ team would be well served to delete any further threads which are started with this intention because they will serve no other purpose but to create stress between two communities that should get along.

Can't we all just get along?

I agree. Mutual respect would be a great place to start.