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Ideal ski towns for the future factoring in all issues?
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abc
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Sorry... If 3 out of 4 "great food options" are pubs, that would be my definition of "nothing".
North Conway has a lot more. But it's a pretty touristy town. Not sure about the retiree community.
Somehow, I like Gorham more. Don't ask me why though
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VTKilarney
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On that list I’ve only eaten at the Red Fox. Their food is very average and the menu is straight from 1997. (Think: chicken parmesan, coconut shrimp, chicken stir fry and steak tips)
Definitely not a “great food option.”
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thebigo
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Thank you, it is comments like this that give me hope.
Hope that many of our new neighbors will eventually tire of our great state, go back to where they came from and allow real estate to settle back to a more comfortable price for us natives.
As my wife has become fond of saying: "Don't portsmouth north conway."
The MWV is a middle class ski destination by and large With very few exceptions in the East, fine dining has been dead for 20 years in ski towns. Even Stowe had far more upper end dining options 20-25 years ago than it does today.
Totally knew I shouldn't have bothered taking your argument bait. You're insufferable with your constant desire to be a contrarian.
And if finding good places to eat is your thing and your stated preference is Gorham over Jackson, your inexperience in the area is glaring.
I haven't ate there, but have at the other three. I assumed it was good as the place is constantly packed.
The point is that abc was scoffing at Jackson as a retirement town destination claiming there is nothing there. That's simply not true, especially factoring in Bartlett right next door.
abc
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I didn’t say it’s “my thing”. It was you who use “great food options” as counter examples of Jackson having nothing there.
I genuinely thought I missed some good stuff there and asked for example. And I’m just being honest if only pubs are the only option, then I didn’t missed much.
I didn’t find any great food option at Gorham either. In fact, I gave up finding much food option in the area. I just felt Gorham more “real”.
I go there to ski and outdoor stuff. I haven’t found other appeals yet. Still, I remain open to be enlightened.
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abc
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Just because I have different preferences doesn’t make me a contrarian.
You’re assuming you represent all skiers. You don’t. Just because we all ski doesn’t mean we have no other interest just as fervently.
Re-read the title of this topic, “... factoring all issues “!
Newpylong
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Skyship is 40 minutes from Lebanon not driving like a maniac. I dont know anyone from this side who keeps going to the West Basin unless Bear and/or Skyeship are closed. It is significantly longer, busier, etc.
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WTF are you talking about? You seriously are in the hall of fame for most annoying people to have a discussion with. It's no wonder you are self described loner.
To recap, some people suggested Jackson as a spot that THEY think is a good retirement option.
You responded that it's a spot on the map with nothing there.
Others disagreed saying there's plenty of places to eat there and both Bartlett and N Conway are a short distance away.
I agreed with that assessment
You asked for dining suggestions.
I provided four. Three that I have been to and enjoyed and one that I know is very popular.
Your NYC snob ass clapped back that pub food isn't great dining.
How you from there make the leap that it's ME that represents all skiers is pretty amusing. I never made such a claim. You asked for recs. I made them. You decided you didn't like the recs.
Do whatever the F you want ABC. Sit in some shitty motel in Gorham and read a book. No on GAF if Jackson isn't for you. It's not for everyone. No place is.
I suggest Google the next time you are looking for information about a place. Your ability to converse one on one with actual humans leaves a lot to be desired.
Peace
Smellytele
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Not pubs Christmas Farm Inn, Wentworth, Thompson House, Highfields.
More pub like Wildcat tavern, Shannon Door, also Shovel handle pub up by Black. Good lunch and breakfasts Yesterdays, and J-town deli.
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NYDB
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I'm convinced. If people from NYC don't like it it gets a higher rating in my book. I'm going to have to check it out the next couple of years. I have 9 years before the youngest is in college, 5 years more of fullish time work, so I'll be sticking to where I am for a bit.
abc
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NYC'ers are snob precisely because there're "great food options" there!
You're the one who imply food options are indicative of a place having "something". While I don't equate two, I allow other suggestions as to whatever that "something" may include as a good town/village. So far, you provided none. But throw all kind of insult instead.
You're the "local" who's promoting what's good about the area. But you haven't come up with much. For people who wants to stay home after a good hike/ski, you have done a good promotion.
I'm a loner by nature. However, if the price to be a "non-loner" is to pretend to agree with others to stroke their ego, then I'm happy to be alone!
Not needing to be around others and having my own ego stroked constantly makes my "loner" status perfectly tolerable.
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NYC'ers are snob precisely because there're "great food options" there!
You're the one who imply food options are indicative of a place having "something". While I don't equate two, I allow other suggestions as to whatever that "something" may include as a good town/village. So far, you provided none. But throw all kind of insult instead.
You're the "local" who's promoting what's good about the area. But you haven't come up with much. For people who wants to stay home after a good hike/ski, you have done a good promotion.
I'm a loner by nature. However, if the price to be a "non-loner" is to pretend to agree with others to stroke their ego, then I'm happy to be alone!
Not needing to be around others and having my own ego stroked constantly makes my "loner" status perfectly tolerable.
Your lack of self awareness is astonishing and you are a pro at projection.
I'm not the Director of the Chamber of Commerce for Jackson. I don't know where the F you're coming up with this idea that I'm trying to "promote" Jackson. I agreed with some folks assessment that Jackson is more than just a spot on the map and made the dumbass mistake of responding to your request for dining recommendations.
I don't give a shit if you or anyone else likes the Jackson area like I do. My ego is just fine and some contrarian crackpot's approval doesn't matter to me one iota.
I also never said Jackson is my preference for where to retire. Feel free to look back in this thread and you'll see I have four basic requirements.
1. Lakefront or quick access to a marina on a big lake. Boating is just as important as skiing to me.
2. Reasonable access to a ski area or a few that I enjoy. Basically about a 45 minute commute or less.
3. A decent variety of places to eat
4. A good live music venue
Throw those in the mixing bowl and I came up with somewhere near Plymouth, NH would be ideal for my preferences right now assuming my kids settle reasonably close when they grow up. I'll want to be near them hopefully. Access to healthcare will also likely be more important in retirement than it is today for me.
Sounds like you should just stay in NYC for retirement.
When you get over yourself and can figure out how to have a normal conversation without the constant projection and arguing, we will be here.
Until then?
Google --->
BOTH towns are a Bummer. Nothing to see/do there...
Just keep on driving by.
abc
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I have said many times that's exactly what I will do!
Fact being, I've "retired" a few years back. But a job landed on my lap, promising interesting work. So I'm now doing my 'retirement hobby' with pay. Much the same way many retired to the mountain and end up "working" for a free pass...
There's nothing "normal" about keyboard "conversations".
I have plenty of real world friends. Living in a real city allows far more in-person conversations.
Cultivating internet "virtual friends" is low on the priority.
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Google --->
Sadly it's happening everywhere in the US, not just ski towns. But I do feel it most acutely in Stowe, where good skiing and a range of good food options including white linen tablecloths went well together for a fun destination. (Please no comments that telemark skiers can't drink wine along with their VT beer). I miss Mes Ami among many others, including the classical music and white-linen at the Cliff House.
I miss the old standard of a chef always striving to make the experience for the guest paramount... especially with properly staged courses. I unsuccessfully spent the last decade stressing to servers that I'm ordering my three/etc courses now to be kind to the chef, "oh yes sir, it will come out spaced and separately", only to have all three items come out at once right behind each other or even all together. Every friggin time... from 'fine dining' places. It's now all about what makes it easier on the chef, not best for the guest. I've given up ordering everything at once - the trust is broken - it gets ordered one at a time now.
Fixe prix menus are also dying out. Trends say Millennials prefer to order separate items, even to their pricing detriment, apparently.
The trust is broken on reservations too. If I made the reservation, the trust is that I will show up. Millennials broke that trust. So now I have to confirm 20 times that "yes, I am indeed coming" even though it sucks when having bad cell coverage in the mountains.
Do the nicer things in life ever come back once they're gone and disappeared? Is this happening in Aspen too? That was also an amazing food scene, but haven't been for a while to note the changes. Probably same there too, but likely a little less so.
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kingslug
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Stowe...The Bench for good middle of the road food
Harrisons for some really good food
Edelweiss deli for very good deli stuff and the best cookies
I gain weight while in Stowe because they have pretty good food..and beer.
I'm the opposite of a foodie..I don't really care. But if its there ..I'll eat it.
At Park City lunch was a cliff bar and some water...good to go.
Harrisons for some really good food
Edelweiss deli for very good deli stuff and the best cookies
I gain weight while in Stowe because they have pretty good food..and beer.
I'm the opposite of a foodie..I don't really care. But if its there ..I'll eat it.
At Park City lunch was a cliff bar and some water...good to go.
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