Keep Killington Open Longer

[2knees]

This is getting ridiculous

 

[mondeo]

I'm officially to the point where, if almost all if my skiing friends weren't K skiers, I'd move to Sugarbush next season.

 

[gmcunni]

I'm officially to the point where, if almost all if my skiing friends weren't K skiers, I'd move to Sugarbush next season.

you can always make new friends.


http://forums.alpinezone.com/showthread.php?t=81345

 

[Nick]

It is a shame. That site has taken off. I dunno how much good it will do but hopefully it gets someone thinking. Would be nice to extend the year, there are several more GREAT weekends of skiing left

 

[ScottySkis]

or just stop buying season pass at K-mart if your that upset about May 1 is better then almost all the other ski areas in the north east,and even Sugarbush isnt really making money now in late spring but their up in north Vt close to die hards and colder weather,but it is Peaks business and were just customers who get to ski,i dont tell my boss how to run his company I may not agree with what he does my work for him,all who bash K-mart should think that way

 

[oakapple]

Season pass holders, such as myself, bought the pass with an expectation that POWDR would make reasonable efforts to honor the contract by providing the services that we paid for.

If the weather hadn’t supported remaining open, then one could argue that to be an act of god, or force majeure – POWDR clearly couldn’t honor the season pass contract then. The weather has been cooperating, however, as evidenced by the recent snowfall and base depth metrics. Regardless of whether the weather will support remaining open into May, they have already elected to close roughly half of the mountain EARLY. They’ve elected not to honor the balance of our contract because it is unattractive for them to do so.

Where exactly is the "contract" that you are claiming they violated? Your season's pass agreement does not commit them to adhere to any particular opening or closing dates, much less to keeping particular trail pods open.

As it is, the following trail pods are still open: Killington Peak, the Canyon, Snowdon, the North Ridge, Ramshead, Snowshed, and the upper half of Skye Peak. That's a lot. How many resorts still have even that much still open, especially at Killington's latitude and elevation?

By May 1, Killington's currently planned closing date, how many will remain?

 

[mediamogul]

Where exactly is the "contract" that you are claiming they violated? Your season's pass agreement does not commit them to adhere to any particular opening or closing dates, much less to keeping particular trail pods open.

As it is, the following trail pods are still open: Killington Peak, the Canyon, Snowdon, the North Ridge, Ramshead, Snowshed, and the upper half of Skye Peak. That's a lot. How many resorts still have even that much still open, especially at Killington's latitude and elevation?

By May 1, Killington's currently planned closing date, how many will remain?

Killington advertised a season lasting from "Nov-early May" to their pass holder and prospective passholders. Last year they closed in April and this year they originally were going to close in April but most likely due to the fervor surrounding this issue they realize they should stay open until May.

Okemo is at nearly the same lattitude and they have, as of today, 89 out of 119 trails open. A much higher percentage than Killington.

Closing prior to or on May 1st due to weather or lack of snow cover is one thing. But closing half the mountain early with good cover is simply disrespectful to the passholders and based upon pocketing as much money for the resort as possible. They could definitely keep the mountain open and still turn a profit. It just wouldn't be as large a profit. If Magic, a mountain struggling to stay in business, could stay open into April there is no excuse for Killington, a multi-million dollar resort. There is no way that Magic turned much of a profit over the last couple weekends and most likely did it as a gesture to its dedicated skiers.

 

[RootDKJ]

How much percentage would it really eat into Kmart's profits to spin the SPQ from 10am to 2pm?

Seems like a pretty easy option to keep the passholders happy.

 

[oakapple]

Killington advertised a season lasting from "Nov-early May" to their pass holder and prospective passholders. Last year they closed in April and this year they originally were going to close in April but most likely due to the fervor surrounding this issue they realize they should stay open until May.

Any such advertisement always says, "conditions permitting," and the operator would be given a wide berth to interpret that. Anyhow, it is probably too late to sue over last season, and this year they are meeting their May promise, albeit barely.

Okemo is at nearly the same lattitude and they have, as of today, 89 out of 119 trails open. A much higher percentage than Killington.

However, they are closing for good next weekend, two full weeks earlier than Killington.

Closing prior to or on May 1st due to weather or lack of snow cover is one thing. But closing half the mountain early with good cover is simply disrespectful to the passholders and based upon pocketing as much money for the resort as possible.

But they haven't closed anywhere near half the mountain. Out of 10 trail pods (not counting the condo trails), only three are fully or mostly closed. Six are fully or mostly open, and Skye Peak is more than half open.

And as of May 2, the first day you will no longer be able to ski at Killington, which resorts within a day trip's driving distance will still be open?

 

[andyzee]

Real quick, this is all about Killington, but how many mountains stay open longer because of Killington.

 

[mondeo]

Any such advertisement always says, "conditions permitting," and the operator would be given a wide berth to interpret that. Anyhow, it is probably too late to sue over last season, and this year they are meeting their May promise, albeit barely.


However, they are closing for good next weekend, two full weeks earlier than Killington.


But they haven't closed anywhere near half the mountain. Out of 10 trail pods (not counting the condo trails), only three are fully or mostly closed. Six are fully or mostly open, and Skye Peak is more than half open.

And as of May 2, the first day you will no longer be able to ski at Killington, which resorts within a day trip's driving distance will still be open?

Skye is more than half open? Sure, if you include the trails it takes 5 minutes of traversing to get to for 1/3 their vertical before you hit the Snowshed crossover and traverse back for 5 minutes.

Oh, and Bear is by far the best spring terrain on the mountain, and everything else was groomed flat Saturday. Shut down Snowdon for all anyone cares, there were more people on the Canyon lift. But keep Bear open as long as it's skiable.

POWDR has never shown any appreciation for their season pass holders, they just treat them like a captive market and go purely for day ticket sales. Even if it cost $10K to run SPQ for the weekend, that's only 15 season passes to make up the difference. With the number of people they pissed off this weekend, it's a sure loser of a proposition.

 

[gmcunni]

Real quick, this is all about Killington, but how many mountains stay open longer because of Killington.

not my home mountain :-(

 

[2knees]

and everything else was groomed flat Saturday.

shirley you must be joking.

 

[mondeo]

shirley you must be joking.

Superstar, Ovation, Downdraft, Skyelark (except for the course) all flat. Escapade had seen a groomer recently. Kept on Freeway (rope line on Big Dipper,) Royal Flush, and woods all day, nothing else was worth skiing.

And stop calling me Shirley.

 

[2knees]

Superstar, Ovation, Downdraft, Skyelark (except for the course) all flat. Escapade had seen a groomer recently. Kept on Freeway (rope line on Big Dipper,) Royal Flush, and woods all day, nothing else was worth skiing.

And stop calling me Shirley.

that is assinine. I hope that isnt the plan for the last 2 weeks.

 

[deadheadskier]

Superstar, Ovation, Downdraft, Skyelark (except for the course) all flat. Escapade had seen a groomer recently. Kept on Freeway (rope line on Big Dipper,) Royal Flush, and woods all day, nothing else was worth skiing.

And stop calling me Shirley.

Well then you have a job to do.

Ski in some lines with your crew on Saturday.

 

[Black Phantom]

that is assinine. I hope that isnt the plan for the last 2 weeks.

It is the plan, surely.:argue:

 

[2knees]

It is the plan, surely.:argue:

Its disssssssssssapointing that they cant leave one of the canyon runs alone. what would eric say? STBG!

 

[mediamogul]

Saving grace of the weekend was the trees skiing awesome. Good bumps on the Needle's Liftline (traverse sucked though), Vagabond, Northstar, and Flume. Yeah they groomed most of the Canyon. Weakness.

 

[Black Phantom]

Its disssssssssssapointing that they cant leave one of the canyon runs alone. what would eric say? STBG!

You could have had Fiddle and OL. Not sure how the bumps will hold up thru the week. Natural grooming will occur.