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Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

Newpylong

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Agreed. Arcteryx is overpriced yuppie wear. Better off spending your money on something like Mountain Hardware.

yep, well aware. Worn Columbia jackets and pants for the past decade. No complaints

I'd rather take the $300 I save buying Columbia instead of Arcteryx and take my wife out to dinner at Number 9 Park.

Just like I'd rather spend $30 early season at SR on a lift ticket and then spend $30 at their bar than spend $60 on a lift tickete at Kton. The mountain gets the same money from me either way.


but by all means Captain Stereotype, Black Phantom, please continue to drop your marketing knowledge on us all. :rolleyes:
 

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yep, well aware. Worn Columbia jackets and pants for the past decade. No complaints

I'd rather take the $300 I save buying Columbia instead of Arcteryx and take my wife out to dinner at Number 9 Park.

Just like I'd rather spend $30 early season at SR on a lift ticket and then spend $30 at their bar than spend $60 on a lift tickete at Kton. The mountain gets the same money from me either way.


but by all means Captain Stereotype, Black Phantom, please continue to drop your marketing knowledge on us all. :rolleyes:

Haven't you already answered your own question? You do not see the value in the "product" at K, either real or perceived. There is nothing wrong with that.

If I was making a day trip from the "Boston area" (I live in the city proper), it would be a pretty easy choice for me as well.
 

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You're kidding, right?

Sadly, they are not.

You can rent this stuff at Banff. Beats lugging gear, right?

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Do I sound like I'm kidding? You should see the shmucks who walk around Boston in that stuff that have never seen a mountain in their life. It's the new North Face but more elite.

Did you know you can actually ski in it?

I have a $900 arcteryx outfit I picked up for $450 from BC.com......I've got about 150 days on it and the jacket still looks like new, and is still in style for those who care.

It is certainly NOT elite among people who actually spend big bucks on ski clothes.....try shopping at Killington or Stratton some time and check out the $1000+ jackets.

Mountain Hardware............hummm....stop living in the 90's.
 

Newpylong

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Did you know you can actually ski in it?

I have a $900 arcteryx outfit I picked up for $450 from BC.com......I've got about 150 days on it and the jacket still looks like new, and is still in style for those who care.

It is certainly NOT elite among people who actually spend big bucks on ski clothes.....try shopping at Killington or Stratton some time and check out the $1000+ jackets.

Mountain Hardware............hummm....stop living in the 90's.


Dear Diary,

Someone on the Internet made funnnn of my overpriced ski clothing.
 

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It's real easy to do on the internet. Excellent analysis of both areas BTW.

Cost = value. VT isn't ME. You also don't see the overalls and Columbia crowd on their $25 day tickets at Killington. Something to be said for that. Geoff's beloved detox had some wonderful effects.

If you are a 15 day a year skier looking for "value" in the early season, Killington is effectively saying you are not welcome.

Funny thing is I would rather hang out with the "Overall" and "Columbia" crowd then some superficial, wanna be environmentalist, liberal, "Free Tibet" bumpersticker asshole with NY plates who shows up at the mountain in their high end clothing, driving their "enviromentally sound" Tahoe. How's that for stereotype? Dink.:wink:
 

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Funny thing is I would rather hang out with the "Overall" and "Columbia" crowd then some superficial, wanna be environmentalist, liberal, "Free Tibet" bumpersticker asshole with NY plates who shows up at the mountain in their high end clothing, driving their "enviromentally sound" Tahoe. How's that for stereotype? Dink.:wink:

No kidding. Kton definitely offers more terrain early on, but they HAVE to. The cast of Jersey Shore x 10,000 show up for wall-to-wall elbowing and rude lift line etiquette. I mean chains on a Camero or Tran Am, really? About as practical as the Dolphins Starter Jacket unzipped down to the waist....

Oh sorry, for a second I thought I was Black Phantom from the city proper. Ha. Tool! :puke:

Settle down, I'm only kidding and I ski in jeans, tucked into my boots! :fangun:
 

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No kidding. Kton definitely offers more terrain early on, but they HAVE to. The cast of Jersey Shore x 10,000 show up for wall-to-wall elbowing and rude lift line etiquette. I mean chains on a Camero or Tran Am, really? About as practical as the Dolphins Starter Jacket unzipped down to the waist....

Oh sorry, for a second I thought I was Black Phantom from the city proper. Ha. Tool! :puke:

Settle down, I'm only kidding and I ski in jeans, tucked into my boots! :fangun:

I guess you live in the "Boston Area" as well!

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the latest k insider answers some questions about the stairway. in addition work has begun on the removing the double fall line on lower wildfire and moving the superpipe for the dew tour this season:

Construction continues on the Peak Walkway with the vast majority of the decking now complete. Hand railings and bar grating stairs will be installed next. A number of questions have come up regarding access to Catwalk Trail off Killington Peak. The Peak Walkway will cross Catwalk, however, the impact will be minimal and once the snow flies, skiers and riders won’t even know the walkway exists when making turns down the legendary trail.

Trail re-grading on Lower Bunny Buster is almost complete. Crews have widened the trail, removed the double fall line on skier’s right and added new culverts to channel runoff. In addition, numerous snowmaking hydrants were relocated and the section between Lower Bunny Buster and Mouse Run will be filled in and leveled out, providing an easier transition to the bottom of the K-1 Gondola.

Crews have also started the ledge blasting and re-grading on Lower Wildfire to remove the double fall line on skier’s right. Crews will also begin work in the coming weeks on moving the Superpipe at Bear Mountain approximately 22 feet to the west to accommodate the larger Olympic-sized pipe requirements (500-feet long with 22-foot walls) for the Jan. 20-23 Winter Dew Tour.

A new Techno-Alpin fan gun will be installed at the bottom of Superstar so the large rock and snowmaking hydrants near the bottom of the trail are being removed. We’re also building a new control room for the Superstar Express to house a new control system for one of our most popular lifts.

k insider link w/ pics:

http://www.killington.com/winter/beast/blog/authors/tom/work-continue-on-numerous
 

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I guess you live in the "Boston Area" as well!

Sorry. MA for college only and that was in Wellesley, not too far from Boston, but a ways from much skiing. I like the HUB, but I wouldn't want to live there. Just a preference I suppose.
 

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Today: Rain likely, mainly after 11am. Cloudy, with a high near 56. East wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Tonight: Rain. Low around 51. Southeast wind between 10 and 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Tuesday: Rain, with thunderstorms also possible after 2pm. High near 65. Breezy, with a south wind between 17 and 24 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Tuesday Night: Occasional showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 8pm, then a chance of showers. Low around 47. Breezy, with a south wind between 14 and 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Wednesday: A chance of showers. Cloudy, with a high near 59. South wind between 11 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Wednesday Night: A slight chance of showers after 2am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 36. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Thursday: A chance of showers after 8am. Cloudy, with a high near 62. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 39.

Friday: Cloudy, with a high near 51.

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30.

Saturday: Cloudy, with a high near 43.

Saturday Night: Cloudy, with a low around 26.

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 44.
 

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Today: Rain likely, mainly after 11am. Cloudy, with a high near 56. East wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Tonight: Rain. Low around 51. Southeast wind between 10 and 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Tuesday: Rain, with thunderstorms also possible after 2pm. High near 65. Breezy, with a south wind between 17 and 24 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Tuesday Night: Occasional showers and possibly a thunderstorm before 8pm, then a chance of showers. Low around 47. Breezy, with a south wind between 14 and 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Wednesday: A chance of showers. Cloudy, with a high near 59. South wind between 11 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Wednesday Night: A slight chance of showers after 2am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 36. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Thursday: A chance of showers after 8am. Cloudy, with a high near 62. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 39.

Friday: Cloudy, with a high near 51.

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30.

Saturday: Cloudy, with a high near 43.

Saturday Night: Cloudy, with a low around 26.

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 44.

Thanks. Weather will be getting more favorable day by day. Just a matter of time before we find out if K is serious or not about getting this season started.
 

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Accuweather. I know, I know, but the the first third of October looks pretty good for night-time snowmaking at elevation:

http://www.accuweather.com/us/vt/killington/05751/forecast-month.asp?mnyr=10-01-2010&view=table

Remember, the above are in town temps (maybe even Rutland?).

If you want to check the temps forecast at elevation using the same source as accuweather (GFS forecast model) you can get tons of detail right here:
http://www.twisterdata.com
Select GFS and then under temperature, select 925mb.. this is a temp forecast for roughly 2500' elevation.
For the current model run (12z/today) we see temps below 0c at hours 162 and 168
not much of a window.. but it's something :fangun:
 
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