Killington Rumor?

[JerseyJoey]

lol...you're pretty clueless...noob.

I've actually met Tom in person and think he's a decent guy, but I don't see eye to eye with him on many things. He is doing a good job, and YES, IT IS PART OF HIS JOB TO POST ON HERE!!!

K-zone has a long history with Tom and Killington PR, and there has been mistakes made on both sides. Even prior to the exisitance of K-zone.

Well then I guess I'm just a clueless

noob. I don't have a problem with that. I am who and what I am. You can call me anything you like. Most of it will probably be true anyway. I am far from sainthood. That's the truth.

It still doesn't change the fact that I love the ski areas in central Vermont and I value Spinmaster's input when it comes to Killington.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Well then I guess I'm just a clueless

noob. .

I couldn't have said it better myself..:lol:

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Yeah but to wear it you would have to survive it and that is doubtful. Unless they make a shirt " I survived Outer Limits but looked like a gaper".

eat a d$ck..

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I still think Highwaystar likes men.

for sure..lol

 

[Tin Woodsman]

I'm pretty sure, (and of course I could be wrong), but I'm pretty sure that posting on Alpine Zone is not part of his job description. Advertising on Alpine Zone is one thing, but actually posting responses to peoples questions on Alpine Zone is something totally different. I don't think he's paid to do that but I'm glad he still does.

I for one am glad SpinmasterK is answering questions on this forum. He gives us reasonable and good information that we may not be able to find elsewhere. Maybe if you left him alone and directed your aggression elsewhere and not at Killington he would answer even more questions and address more of the concerns we have about Killington. Again, I could be wrong and maybe he actually enjoys reading your posts. I can't say either way.

You add nothing to the discussion by bashing Spinmaster and Killington. All that does is potentially have him responding less to our questions here in this forum. I know what happened on KZone even though I don't post there.

Spinmaster was a vital source of information to the Killington faithful on Kzone until he got continually attacked by the likes of you and the rest of the Killington haters, and then he just disappeared, and all the information that we wanted and asked about disappeared with him.

I think it is very nice of Spinmaster to answer questions on Alpine Zone and I welcome his input. I know that I'm realtively new here, but I still have a voice and I'd like that voice heard, especially by SpinmasterK. He also has a voice and I'm glad he uses it here. I think he is doing a very good thing by participating here. I would hate to see him disappear like he did on KZone because the information he provides is very valuable to some of us here that still, and always will, love Killington.

So if someone comes over and spits on your face while telling you its raining, you just reach for an umbrella? Because that's what Spinmaster just did. He provided you with entirely misleading information, which has been refuted both factually and anecdotally here, and you're falling all over yourself to thank him for the pleasure.

You're pretty easy to please.

 

[JerseyJoey]

So if someone comes over and spits on your face while telling you its raining, you just reach for an umbrella?

You're pretty easy to please.

I can't answer that. Nobody's ever spit in my face. Matter of fact, how can someone spit and talk at the same time? They would have to talk and then spit, or spit and then talk. Either way, it's never happened to me so I really can't answer your question based on personal experience.

If that changes, I will be sure to let you know.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

I can't answer that. Nobody's ever spit in my face. Matter of fact, how can someone spit and talk at the same time? They would have to talk and then spit, or spit and then talk. Either way, it's never happened to me so I really can't answer your question based on personal experience.

If that changes, I will be sure to let you know.

OK, let's just simplify it and say you're gullible.

 

[2knees]

After seeing what happened herehttp://forums.alpinezone.com/31067-killington-2008-alpinezone-ski-area-challenge.html I see why they don't post much at Kzone

you know whats even more ridiculous? Read the thread on kzone about the thread/challenge on here. Tough talk from some people over there.

 

[pepperdawg]

KillingtonZone should never have existed. When Steve Wright quit in 2004 and moved on to Jay Peak, Killington quickly pulled the plug on their captive message board. Personally, I think it's completely insane that Killington allowed that to happen and marked the beginning of the dark years for Killington marketing. ASC made a mess out of the resort in their last years so there's little surprise that people were negative. POWDR disenfranchised an awful lot of people so the negativity was merely re-enforced.

If I were made king for a day at Killington, I'd put the Killington message board back up and devote enough resources to it to moderate it properly. KZone would die a natural death.

Bring back the RSN sponsored boards from the late 90's damn it......

hee hee hee

 

[Vortex]

Boyne has two discussion areas they support and communicate on in Maine now, No to mention the non sponsored ones as well. I'm glad to see more communication.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Bring back the RSN sponsored boards from the late 90's damn it......

hee hee hee

I miss the Peaks of Excitement cyberlodge..I had alot of fun there..

 

[JerseyJoey]

OK, let's just simplify it and say you're gullible.

Maybe I am gullible. I can't argue with that. Some things may go over my head and I don't always understand sarcasm very well, but I don't think that's something to poke fun at.

All I was saying is that I appreciate Spinmasters participation in this forum. Nothing more and nothing less. I find it hard to believe that I'm getting my chops busted for thinking that.

I'm sorry if my post(s) offended anyone.

 

[pepperdawg]

I miss the Peaks of Excitement cyberlodge..I had alot of fun there..

Ha Ha - thats right - forgot about the Cyberlodge

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Ha Ha - thats right - forgot about the Cyberlodge

I've been post-whoring on the net since 1993..

 

[SkiDork]

If I were made king for a day at Killington, I'd put the Killington message board back up and devote enough resources to it to moderate it properly. KZone would die a natural death.

They won't do that - they're too scared or they just don't have someone like Steve to moderate it. It would take a huge amount of effort at first to get it on an even keel. But it could be done if they wanted to.

 

[thetrailboss]

Pretty much what Greg said, re: relations. Part of the reason why AZ has credibility is because of our effort to be a middleman between the resorts and you. Some use this to their advantage...and to our advantage as well (such as a certain resort that is in North Central Vermont who regularly use this as a focus group and has offered deals directed to you specifically).

I know that the focus has changed at Killington and we all have our opinions. But when you take too many shots at the messenger or use vinegar to attract bees a few too many times, you and all of us end up losing out (enough folksy metaphors there...). So I'm glad to see Spinmaster post in here...

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Pretty much what Greg said, re: relations. Part of the reason why AZ has credibility is because of our effort to be a middleman between the resorts and you. Some use this to their advantage...and to our advantage as well (such as a certain resort that is in North Central Vermont who regularly use this as a focus group and has offered deals directed to you specifically).

I know that the focus has changed at Killington and we all have our opinions. But when you take too many shots at the messenger or use vinegar to attract bees a few too many times, you and all of us end up losing out (enough folksy metaphors there...). So I'm glad to see Spinmaster post in here...

But what is the use of participation when it consists, in large part, of information that seems intentionally designed to mislead. I'll provide two examples:

1) The snowmaking time requirement discussed above. I think HS showed admirable restraint as he walked through the publically available numbers and applied standard 5th grade math to that. So the good readers here think that it takes 8-10 days of optimal conditions to open K-Mart. What Tom didn't say was that this figure is intentionally designed to produce two effects. First, it lowers expectations for the gullible public (i.e. the Jersey Joeys of the world) who take it at face value. Lo and behold, when they are able to open after "only" 5-6 straight days of snowmaking, they are heroes. Second, it takes the pressure off of them with respect to their ability to open early. They've made a conscious choice that they will only open T2B from K peak, and that there must be a few ways down. Given that we know it's taken them less than 24 hrs of acceptable (not optimal) weather to cover Rime, I am stunned that people would fall for this.

2) Release of skier days. What got my panties in a bunch on this was that Tom came here and lied. He said that as a private company, they do not feel obligated to release their skier visit figures. Yet, these figures are available for POWDR owned Mt. Bachelor, and at least the % increase/decrease figures are available for the mothership in Park City. Clearly, they are trying to hide something during what is a sensitive period for their efforts to build the village.

Participation here by industry reps is only as useful as the accuracy of their words. Dont' get me wrong - I fully expect any industry rep from Win on down to some marketing peon to try and shade their answers so as to represent their resort in a favorable light. When you are being straight-up lied to, that's a different story. The rep loses credibility, and if left unchallenged, AZ loses credibility for being a mouthpiece.

 

[mister moose]

KillingtonZone should never have existed. When Steve Wright quit in 2004 and moved on to Jay Peak, Killington quickly pulled the plug on their captive message board. Personally, I think it's completely insane that Killington allowed that to happen and marked the beginning of the dark years for Killington marketing. ASC made a mess out of the resort in their last years so there's little surprise that people were negative. POWDR disenfranchised an awful lot of people so the negativity was merely re-enforced.

If I were made king for a day at Killington, I'd put the Killington message board back up and devote enough resources to it to moderate it properly. KZone would die a natural death.

A well run mountain sponsored board wouild do well just from the through traffic from the mother site. But I seriously doubt that any mountain, especially a POWDR owned one, would allow straight talk on conditions, complaints, and negative viewpoints to be expressed. Therefore there will always be a market and demand for an independent board. K-zone has enough momentum now that it wouldn't likely go away anytime soon.

(If you were Killington King for a day, you mean to say you wouldn't fire up each and every gun on Superstar, and then go on tv and proclaim a ski till there's no snow left closing date?)

I frankly don't understand Killington's decision to stop posting on K-Zone. The occasional ranter or screamer that was disrespectful does not reflect at all on the mountain. Geez, grow a set. K-Zone even tweeked the forum so that kibitzing was held to a minimum. Then restricted to none at all after a question was posed. I think of it as a candidate on the campaign trail delivering a stump speech. Sure you get hecklers, but the candidate is ill advised to stop campaigning just because someone in the crowd is going to yell a rude remark. There are plenty of inconsiderate rude people on the mountain on any given day too, but no one is kicking them out either. Spinmaster needs to improve his accuracy and delivery, and lose the ambiguity that has sometimes been included in his statements - perhaps unintentionally - hard to tell since there is never much of a conversation.

Lastly, no matter how many times it is said, there's always a few too new or too clueless to know that Spinmaster can only say what he is authorized to say. You are not talking to Tom, you are talking to the Killington representative, someone who has pre determined limits on both the subject matter and content set by his superiors.

 

[skiing is life]

Have you ever made snow? Worked at a resort? Been on a snow making team? Gotten a tour by one of our snow making experts? You are mistaken about who I am.

killington you make me sick uke:

Whoever banned this SOB good job. I have my own snowmaking system in my backyard and ive worked countless times on a snowmaking team. Sure its hard and im always usually soaked to the bone when i come inside. My reward is seeing happy people skiing the next day on the snow that I made (and a small paycheque)Your idea is money. You open late and close early so that you can put all the money you made that season into your own pocket.
Mount snow is the new killington and i would go ski at their resort over yours anyday. We are no longer your whores and i swear it, someone will have to shove a red hot poker up my ass and then chop off my parts before i ski at your resort. someday you will realise your mistake but it will be to late by then.

so good luck buying that new mansion you wanted in cape cod. Ill be waiting for your downfall.:angry:

 

[icedtea]

^ who are you talking about?

and less crowds are ok by me. mt snow does not compare to k in respect to terrain.