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[ThatGuy]

Yeah the top is great coverage but beyond that its way below average…

 

[Newpylong]

I'm far happier that they spent the hours on the other trails and less on SS.

 

[mister moose]

these are two lifts i never use. i parked at skyeship for the first time ever recently. i wouldn't again. i understand the need for beginner infrastructure at snowshed, but these two lifts are nothingburgers to most killington skiers.

between needles eye, superstar, and skye peak quad, the skyeship is the most redundant useless lift and i never see a need to take my skis off and ride it.

Lets see...

Snowshed is used by many of the Mtn Green and Pinnacle people coming off their shuttle buses. As well as The Grand.

Skyeship, in addition to being Newpylong's and Captain Halfski's personal morning lift, is the way to get to
Bear from Needles
Dreammaker
Thimble
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ hits none of those.

Killington has announced a plan to replace Snowshed Double with a lift that goes higher. When of course has yet to be announced.

 

[Rogman]

Skyeship, in addition to being Newpylong's and Captain Halfski's personal morning lift, is the way to get to
Bear from Needles
Dreammaker
Thimble
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ hits none of those

Without even trying I can think of ways to hit half of that list from the Needles Eye Quad.

 

[urungus]

Lets see...

Snowshed is used by many of the Mtn Green and Pinnacle people coming off their shuttle buses. As well as The Grand.

Skyeship, in addition to being Newpylong's and Captain Halfski's personal morning lift, is the way to get to
Bear from Needles
Dreammaker
Thimble
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ hits none of those.

Killington has announced a plan to replace Snowshed Double with a lift that goes higher. When of course has yet to be announced.

Can’t you take Great Eastern > Bearly to get from NEQ to Bear ?

 

[RH29]

Lets see...

Snowshed is used by many of the Mtn Green and Pinnacle people coming off their shuttle buses. As well as The Grand.

Skyeship, in addition to being Newpylong's and Captain Halfski's personal morning lift, is the way to get to
Bear from Needles
Dreammaker
Thimble
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ hits none of those.

Killington has announced a plan to replace Snowshed Double with a lift that goes higher. When of course has yet to be announced.

Higher as in, to the same height as the top of the quad to make the K1 trek easier, or up to Bittersweet, or maybe even all the way to near the top of Needle's Eye?

 

[mister moose]

Without even trying I can think of ways to hit half of that list from the Needles Eye Quad.

Skyeship is the way to get to:
Bear [trails] from Needles
Dreammaker [headwall, the fun part.]
Thimble [upper]
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ [still] hits none of those. C'mon, I know you know that's obvious.

Can’t you take Great Eastern > Bearly to get from NEQ to Bear ?

I meant you can ski Bear (Wildfire, Bear Claw, Skyeburst, even most of OL) from the Skyeship. Of course you can take Bearly, but that's a boring schlep. You can get to Ramshead from the top of the NEQ too, but so what.

Higher as in, to the same height as the top of the quad to make the K1 trek easier, or up to Bittersweet, or maybe even all the way to near the top of Needle's Eye?

If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the Village update podcast. They weren't specific as to the upper terminal.

 

[Rogman]

Skyeship is the way to get to:
Bear [trails] from Needles
Dreammaker [headwall, the fun part.]
Thimble [upper]
Upper Needles
Skylark/Superstar
Skyehawk

NEQ [still] hits none of those. C'mon, I know you know that's obvious.

I meant you can ski Bear (Wildfire, Bear Claw, Skyeburst, even most of OL) from the Skyeship. Of course you can take Bearly, but that's a boring schlep. You can get to Ramshead from the top of the NEQ too, but so what.

If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the Village update podcast. They weren't specific as to the upper terminal.

So you quote yourself, but change what you wrote, and then tell me “C’mon, I know you know that’s obvious“.

 

[thebigo]

Today qualifies as blue bird:

 

[mister moose]

So you quote yourself, but change what you wrote, and then tell me “C’mon, I know you know that’s obvious“.

Only parenthesis were added for clarity. You can also "get to" Bear from Needles by a little hike to Carpenters Run, a schlep to GE, ski to Rte 4 base, and take the shuttle to Bear. Again, who cares? Are you, Rogman, going to ride NEQ just so you can ski Bearly? Have you EVER skied Bearly as the main attraction in the run? I think not. (Again, for clarity, I said YOU, not you and little ones) The difference was the functionality of Skyeship vs NEQ, ie what you can ski from there. All of the above is obvious.

For those less familiar with Killington (and for those that don't recognize the difference between upper & lower Dreammaker) here's a map of everything you can hit from Skyeship you can't hit from NEQ (some woods shortcuts needed in a few cases):

It's actually quite a bit of terrain.

The context was

these are two lifts i never use. i parked at skyeship for the first time ever recently. i wouldn't again. i understand the need for beginner infrastructure at snowshed, but these two lifts are nothingburgers to most killington skiers.

between needles eye, superstar, and skye peak quad, the skyeship is the most redundant useless lift and i never see a need to take my skis off and ride it.

So the area in question is what you can hit from Skyeship vs NEQ.

 

[Rogman]

So now you admit you can get to Dreammaker from the Needles Quad?

 

[Newpylong]

Today qualifies as blue bird:

Pipe Dream in sun. So good.

 

[ss20]

Skyeship Gondi should've had stage 1 going to the base of the K1 lodge, then up the old K double chair line (where Flume is today). Then a hsq up the current K1 line and a 6 pack up the Skyeship stage 2 line. Eliminate needles and Northbrook. Better beginner access to snowshed/rams without needing to take Northbrook (which many beginners don't even know they need to take). Gondola and chair options to Killington peak (useful for winter and summer). Overall capacity in needles/stage 2 area is reduced which is good for those trails that can't handle the current volume with 2 lifts there.

This was always my fantasy plan that would do wonders for Killington. Would've been feasible had the new K1 and summit lodges not been constructed.

 

[mister moose]

So now you admit you can get to Dreammaker from the Needles Quad?

Lower not upper. Which again, is obvious. Me thinks you're trolling me.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Only parenthesis were added for clarity. You can also "get to" Bear from Needles by a little hike to Carpenters Run, a schlep to GE, ski to Rte 4 base, and take the shuttle to Bear. Again, who cares? Are you, Rogman, going to ride NEQ just so you can ski Bearly? Have you EVER skied Bearly as the main attraction in the run? I think not. (Again, for clarity, I said YOU, not you and little ones) The difference was the functionality of Skyeship vs NEQ, ie what you can ski from there. All of the above is obvious.

For those less familiar with Killington (and for those that don't recognize the difference between upper & lower Dreammaker) here's a map of everything you can hit from Skyeship you can't hit from NEQ (some woods shortcuts needed in a few cases):

It's actually quite a bit of terrain.View attachment 57987

The context was


So the area in question is what you can hit from Skyeship vs NEQ.

No. You’re pedantically focusing solely on needles eye and you omit superstar and skye peak quad. I specifically said needles eye superstar and skye peak serve the same terrain as skyeship, rendering the skyeship redundant. ignoring the “and” and focusing only on NEQ for your lil rant is ridiculous. include all the lifts I mentioned and your lil ms paint project can eliminate all yellow lines. the skye ship serves a parking lot and killingtons marketing vertical footage stat. it serves no skiing worth skiing that isn’t served by those other high speed lifts that don’t require taking your skis off

 

[skiur]

No. You’re pedantically focusing solely on needles eye and you omit superstar and skye peak quad. I specifically said needles eye superstar and skye peak serve the same terrain as skyeship, rendering the skyeship redundant. ignoring the “and” and focusing only on NEQ for your lil rant is ridiculous. include all the lifts I mentioned and your lil ms paint project can eliminate all yellow lines. the skye ship serves a parking lot and killingtons marketing vertical footage stat. it serves no skiing worth skiing that isn’t served by those other high speed lifts that don’t require taking your skis off

Valley plunge is worth skiing.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Valley plunge is worth skiing.

lol. maybe to end the day if you parked there. if there is snow at 1000 ft

 

[mister moose]

No. You’re pedantically focusing solely on needles eye and you omit superstar and skye peak quad. I specifically said needles eye superstar and skye peak serve the same terrain as skyeship, rendering the skyeship redundant. ignoring the “and” and focusing only on NEQ for your lil rant is ridiculous. include all the lifts I mentioned and your lil ms paint project can eliminate all yellow lines. the skye ship serves a parking lot and killingtons marketing vertical footage stat. it serves no skiing worth skiing that isn’t served by those other high speed lifts that don’t require taking your skis off

I understood your meaning the first time. You are correct from a technical lift served view, but not from a skier flow view. The same argument can be made for the South Ridge Quad, you can ski all of South ridge without the quad running. Why was it replaced?

Without Skyeship, you can't ski upper Dreammaker , upper Needles, or all of Thimble without 2 lift rides. If you are at the base of NEQ you can't get to Skylark or Superstar or most of Bear without 2 lift rides. Not to mention throwing all that capacity onto other lifts on a crowded day. There is a functional difference without Skyeship.

 

[ss20]

The argument that Skyeship 1 doesn't go anywhere is stupid. Really good beginner and low intermediate terrain down there (til the bottom switchbacks). Skyeship has tons of parking Killington desperately needs. Access to homes. And it's only open Christmas-April 1 which is when the mountain needs the additional parking/lift/trail capacity. The lines down there on a weekend are ridiculously long because of the demand.

 

[Rogman]

Lower not upper. Which again, is obvious. Me thinks you're trolling me.

Of course. But you deserve it for being an idiot. I ski pods. I go to Needles to ski Needles. I don’t go to Needles because I want to go to Bear or anywhere else. Your premise of evaluating lifts based on where else they can get you is completely ridiculous. Skyeship Stage 2 is great for leaving Needles. It sucks for actually skiing Needles. If your goal is to ski somewhere else, can I recommend Logan Airport?