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jack97

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Wha? :???:

It's just a step below the world cup ski, which is geared at top level competitors...

It's not like they had to step back from something they were making to something they used to make... (like new coke vs. coke classic)

-w

think most competitors are skiing the hart classic, the tip is less than 100 mm. The other models have tips around 103.

idone was used by Janne Lahtela. Its the ski currently used by Dale Begg Smith, Aiko Uemura and bunch of other skiers. They have several version which are stiffer and softer, the cracked edge version being the softer model. Then they have two more models for teens and young adult. From my pov, they seem to be in more touch with the freestyle mogul scene for alot longer than hart. Also the pricing seems decent. Word on the street is that the harts will crack, so laying down all that money doesn't seem that worthwhile nor using it in spring conditions. I was hitting so many bare spot these past couple of weeks, scrapping dirt doesn't bother me but I was scrapping boulders as well. :-(
 

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Saw a dude on an older F17 yellow yesterday

steveo

Yeah, that prolly had the classic dimensions, when hart introduced the H17 a couple of years ago the made the tips wider, then they had to introduce the classic model.
 
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start selling IDone ski.

The fact that Hart had to make a classic model tells me they were never in touch with the bumper crowd. reminds me of coke classic.
I think that tells you that in order to sponsor all the guys they wanted to sponsor (i.e., the entire Men's US Ski team,) there needed to be a range of skis. The new Volkl has similar dimensions to the Hart Classic, and there seems to be a similar split amongst Volkl skiers going with the old dimensions and new dimensions.
 

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The Hart F17 Classic is the one that has the wider shovel and more sidecut. The F17 World Cup is the narrower profile... same basic sidecut as the twister, but stiffer.
 

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I think that tells you that in order to sponsor all the guys they wanted to sponsor (i.e., the entire Men's US Ski team,) there needed to be a range of skis. The new Volkl has similar dimensions to the Hart Classic, and there seems to be a similar split amongst Volkl skiers going with the old dimensions and new dimensions.

Could be. Still, Hart's MSRP still looks out of my price range and I hate the idea of a 1K bump ski, MSRP that is. Doesn't seem right, just last sat, I was over at Sunapee for spring skiing, saw quite a few out beat up cabrawler and rossi moguls (w/ james bond girl). Bump skis are made to get beaten up and would hate if other vendors use Hart as tier pricing to justified a higher cost.
 

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The Hart Classic is the one that got the Bronze in Vancouver. The F17WC missed the podiums.
 

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Bryon Wilson got the bronze because he has sick air.

I never said he won because of the ski. Patrick DNF's and I forget what Nate and Michael did (all on <coincidently> on the F17WC) didn't make the podiums. Both skis are arguably the best built mogul skis out there.
 

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2011 K2 244 "Mamba" Sneak Peak

Very cool retro graphics! Spy pictures from Factory
C10_Mamba_173_173_10-08-09_F1-1.jpg

We'll have the skis this summer.
www.MogulProShop.com
 

deadheadskier

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indeed, very cool. Makes the twister look modern

Rossi should follow suit and bring back the 4M :daffy:
 
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