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[jack97]

I never said he won because of the ski. Patrick DNF's and I forget what Nate and Michael did (all on <coincidently> on the F17WC) didn't make the podiums. Both skis are arguably the best built mogul skis out there.

You initially gave credit to the ski and omitted the skier which imo had more to do with winning the bronze. Don't get me wrong, sponsorship for training and proper equipment is huge but I think he could have been gotten that from other agressive companies as well. Perhaps Hart is the only game in town which doesn't speak well the freestyle scene in USA.

To answer the rest, Nate DNF as well and Micheal Moorse finished 15th. A guy over at ms.net broke his Hart F17 on his first day at Bumpalooza. Rumors as spreading that a freestyle team at upper state NY has broken plenty of Harts, just not sure if its the classic, WC or the softer version for younger skiers. Time will tell if the ski can take the abuse. I'm sure if it can take Mondeo's beating for a full season, it means its a durable ski. :wink:

 

[jack97]

Do you know what lengths they will be available in? Hopefully longer than that 173 :razz:.

dude.... you noticed the tips, its 97mm instead of this years 92 mm. That makes the dimensions closer to the twisters. :-o

As you said in the past, everything points back to the twister..... its a great ski.

 

[skidmarks]

Do you know what lengths they will be available in? Hopefully longer than that 173 :razz:.

153, 163, and 173. I agree the 173 isn't that large especially as the largest size. I should be big enough however for most.

 

[mondeo]

As you said in the past, everything points back to the twister..... its a great ski.

I hate the Twister. I'd go for the K2 or Hart any day of the week over it. More to do with flex than shape, though. Shape I don't notice as much.

Or more succinctly,:

your favorite bump ski sux

 

[jack97]

I hate the Twister. I'd go for the K2 or Hart any day of the week over it. More to do with flex than shape, though. Shape I don't notice as much.

Or more succinctly,:

lol... , ok, all kidding aside. what do you like about the flex on the K2 and Harts? I think thats another important factor.

 

[deadheadskier]

I've only owned two bump skis in my life.

Rossignol 4Ms and Salomon Force9 3S. I'd be interested in checking out some of the new stuff, but the lack of versatility would make it hard for me to consider buying a bump board.

I LOVE my Rossi BX in the bumps and they're quite fun getting to and from the bump trail as well.

176cm 109-70-99. Anything on the market similar to those dimensions?

 

[powhunter]

Shannon from Sundown still rocks the Force 9s

 

[jack97]

176cm 109-70-99. Anything on the market similar to those dimensions?

http://www.fatypus.com/home/b-nasty.php

 

[deadheadskier]

Shannon from Sundown still rocks the Force 9s

those things must be total noodles. I skied em' for two seasons. For the first 25 days they were fantastic, then the foam core broke down and they were garbage. Tips delaminated real easy too. I bought one pair and ended up going through 4 total in two years. Salomon was real generous with their warranty back in those days. Probably because they had only been making skis for a few years at that time.

 

[deadheadskier]

http://www.fatypus.com/home/b-nasty.php

might be up my alley, though I don't see myself needing to replace the BX for probably 4 years. Only use them about 12 days a season.

 

[powbmps]

It's all about economics. I'd be a Hart or IDOne fanboy if I could pick up a pair for $325. Until that day I'm on the Twister bandwagon ;-).

 

[MR. evil]

It's all about economics. I'd be a Hart or IDOne fanboy if I could pick up a pair for $325. Until that day I'm on the Twister bandwagon ;-).

There is a guy online selling the IDOnes In the mid $400 range. I almost bough a pair this winter.

 

[mondeo]

lol... , ok, all kidding aside. what do you like about the flex on the K2 and Harts? I think thats another important factor.

They're stiffer, especially in the tails. They let me know when I'm skiing well, and when I'm skiing like crap. And when I'm skiing well, they really work. The Twisters are a much more laid back ski. Don't really care how you're skiing them.

 

[Greg]

The Twisters are a much more laid back ski. Don't really care how you're skiing them.

Which is perfect for me.... :lol:

 

[jack97]

It's all about economics. I'd be a Hart or IDOne fanboy if I could pick up a pair for $325. Until that day I'm on the Twister bandwagon ;-).

There is a guy online selling the IDOnes In the mid $400 range. I almost bough a pair this winter.

I was tempted also. Add shipping to those IDOnes, then the cost goes upper to high 400. Still to steep for something you can't demo.

I want one tho because Aiko skis them.... she's asian and she's hot. ;-)

 

[Philpug]

You initially gave credit to the ski and omitted the skier which imo had more to do with winning the bronze. Don't get me wrong, sponsorship for training and proper equipment is huge but I think he could have been gotten that from other agressive companies as well. Perhaps Hart is the only game in town which doesn't speak well the freestyle scene in USA.

To answer the rest, Nate DNF as well and Micheal Moorse finished 15th. A guy over at ms.net broke his Hart F17 on his first day at Bumpalooza. Rumors as spreading that a freestyle team at upper state NY has broken plenty of Harts, just not sure if its the classic, WC or the softer version for younger skiers. Time will tell if the ski can take the abuse. I'm sure if it can take Mondeo's beating for a full season, it means its a durable ski. :wink:

I will say the kids ski isn't worthy of the name and should be avoided. When I was with Hart, in the first year of testing there was zero breakage if F17's. The Classic F17 from 175cm and up is GS ski with mogul graphics, the shorter F17's are a different ski which some will say has too much shape for a mogul ski, the F17WC is a true mogul ski, designed by Patrick Deneen. I was with Patrick when he (and Brian Wilson) were testing the prototypes.

 

[skidmarks]

I will say the kids ski isn't worthy of the name and should be avoided. When I was with Hart, in the first year of testing there was zero breakage if F17's. The Classic F17 from 175cm and up is GS ski with mogul graphics, the shorter F17's are a different ski which some will say has too much shape for a mogul ski, the F17WC is a true mogul ski, designed by Patrick Deneen. I was with Patrick when he (and Brian Wilson) were testing the prototypes.

They have a new kids ski for next season F-17 Rocket 139,149, and 155 (wood core) that should be a lot more sturdy.

 

[Philpug]

They have a new kids ski for next season F-17 Rocket 139,149, and 155 (wood core) that should be a lot more sturdy.

Good. The last one wasn't a serious ski.

 

[jack97]

hmm..... Hart Fusion won the men's gold and the women's silver. I want a pair.

So why are the Canadians; Heil, Roussea and Bilodeau sporting the Hart Fusion, eh?

Does Hart have a seperate company north of the border and do they carry their own line?
Hart USA link only carrys the classic and wc.

 

[skidmarks]

Hart Fusion Eh??

hmm..... Hart Fusion won the men's gold and the women's silver. I want a pair.

So why are the Canadians; Heil, Roussea and Bilodeau sporting the Hart Fusion, eh?

Does Hart have a seperate company north of the border and do they carry their own line?
Hart USA link only carrys the classic and wc.

That's a great question, I'll have to find out what the deal is??