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cool. let's go swap some spit at tyer mill. ;-) :lol:
there is a suspected case in southbury....
hammer
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I understand the immediate reaction but the flu's going to be around for a while...how long can schools stay shut down?
i think its panic, to be honest. whats the point in closing them after the guy go sick. apparently, there is a 10 day incubation period with the virus. if the dude really has it, he's already passed it to everybody there.
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!
Warp Daddy
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The Press and Media love the fear mongering gotta generate some controversy , advertising revenue is non - existant while print , ink and labor costs are out of controll----------------another dinosaur is dying in the swamp hear it squeal
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I heard an interesting fact yesterday that over 30,000 people die each year from the regular old vanilla flu. I don't think anyone has died from swine flu yet. The concern is that basically nobody is immune to it and apparently it can mutate easily.
RootDKJ
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5 reported cases in the great Garden State. I should stay safe until this passes over.
severine
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250,000+ worldwide every year
But you never hear anything about that.
And a 23-month old in Texas was reported as a casualty of swine flu this morning. I think that's the first in the U.S.
On the other hand, swine flu is not new (in the 1976 panic, only one soldier died of it, but many more died or were damaged by the quickly-made vaccine that was manufactured to combat it), virii mutate rapidly, and it wasn't until recently that they even began regularly looking for atypical flu virii. Nothing new. Just creating panic to distract from other things.
Good point. I will have to seek safety sometime after lunch. But there was suspected case in my town. Maybe I should seek immediate safety.....
mondeo
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That's because the typical flu doesn't have the potential to reach 1918 pandemic levels. Mortality rates are low and target the old, very young, and otherwise weak. This one is most likely a false alarm like the Asian bird flus of recent years, but has a higher mortality rate, passes easily from human to human, kills young, healthy individuals, and is a new strain, meaning low immunity levels. And the first case was reported a few days ago; outbreaks grow in numbers exponentially, and with a 10 day incubation period, the worst is yet to come.
The 1918 outbreak killed 50-100 million people. That was before widespread air travel. Another virus like that would have completely devastating impacts on the world; some caution is reasonable.
Booo! I was expecting another story about cooking up a pound of bacon in a drunken stupor during the middle of the night.
:lol: i forgot about that. next time it happens we need pics!
That story is legend in my house. :beer:
severine
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Remember that the healthcare available in 1918 was not what it is today. This is also why you're seeing more mortality in Mexico than in the U.S.
And I have news for you: new strains of all virii are constantly coming out. Why do you think they have to make new flu vaccines every year? And even then, it's only a guess as to which one will be the predominate strain that hits. (I won't get started on vaxes though...) There will always be a new strain of something or other, and if we keep doing stupid stuff, then yes, they will turn into super bugs that are hard to kill. Historically, though, the idea is nothing new and is unlikely to have the mortality rates of superbugs of the past. I'm not saying go out and make out with someone who has it; but this is blown out of proportion.
The news went ga-ga over this in the AM. The even had Gov Rell call in. Then they said: "We don't want to panic anyone. There haven't been any confirmed cases here in CT....yet." Unreal.
I worry about all the overhyped media coverage on this...the bird flew, SARS and all that fun stuff. A lot of these haven't really "evolved" into a bad pandemic. I worry the media is "crying wolf" and when the flu really hits the fan, people will be a bit numb to it.
I worry about all the overhyped media coverage on this...the bird flew, SARS and all that fun stuff. A lot of these haven't really "evolved" into a bad pandemic. I worry the media is "crying wolf" and when the flu really hits the fan, people will be a bit numb to it.
mondeo
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That's great, except in the case of a pandemic. The problem with a pandemic is not that you can't treat it, it's that it spreads so quickly and in such large numbers that it overwhelms the capacity to treat.
There are constantly new variations of old strains coming out. The difference here (and with the avian flus) is that it's significantly different from strains we've already been exposed to, unlike the seasonal flus which tend to be mild mutations of last year's strain. Which is why the mortality rate here is higher; typically 0.1% for flus, so the current 2-5% number is pretty high. New variations on old bugs aren't that big a deal. A strain that had previously been contained to pigs or birds and suddenly becomes transmissable human to human can be a big deal, because it's the pigs or birds that are somewhat immunized against the bug, not the humans.
severine
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You have an answer for everything, don't you?
Not to get all conspiracy-theorist on everyone, but... there is the potential that this was lab-designed and released. Not necessarily by our government; there are plenty of wacko groups out there and germ-warfare is documented.
ctenidae
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How swine flu is transmitted.
With bonus bacon referrence.
And a cute kitten.
And a baby pig.
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