People skiing on old straight skis

[mountainman]

Boots?

I liked the leather lace up boots. Never heard of ACL or MCL injuries back then. The main reason ski'ers are not taught how to fall, which create these types on injuries. Not much for bear trap bindings. Still have a pair of fisher 215"s that i break out once in awhile. Still a good ride. Rossi 3g's 210"s still work. Don't really like the shaped ski's. I still can't believe how short ski's have gotten over the years. Might as will make a big pair of boots that look like ski's. LOL Bootski LOL

 

[jaja111]

I like to occasionally break out my old pre's (couldn't pass on their $5 pricetag at a garage sale), straight enough to use as a flat edge. I have 3 pairs of shaped skis and two monoskis. Different flavors to keep things shook up I guess. Straight skis take quite a bit more skill to master and are a different sort of challenge.

But I would have to say the vast majority of people I see on old equipment are not in the same mindset as myself. They struggle with efficient turns, still back seatting... even half wedge flicking, when you see them. I think to myself, my god... the agony... you'd be so much better off and rewarded with modern skis! But then you see someone on a pair of straight 210's ripping perfect parallel turns like Stein Erickson. You can't knock that.

 

[Glenn]

What's the collective wisdom on skis wearing out after a season or few? Does a recreational skier need a new ski every couple years because the "spring" wears out of a ski?

I think Skiing magazine had a blurb on that in their buyer's guide this year. IIRC...75-90 days is what they said? I'm sure it depends a lot. If you cruise along...I bet that can be expanded upon.

 

[faceplant]

What's the collective wisdom on skis wearing out after a season or few? Does a recreational skier need a new ski every couple years because the "spring" wears out of a ski?

supposedly the camber breaks down....or so they say
then again, my rossi 4s's still got some good camber left in 'em

more likely your edges will go before the camber if you tune your boards alot
buddy of mine does his after every full day
course, he gets a new set ever year....sometimes 2

 

[dmc]

This thread is making miss my old Rossi 4M mogul skis...

 

[snoseek]

I'm thinking that you are probably a hard charging expert, and put a lot of stress on your equipment. Those who get 300+ days and still feel their boots still fit fine are probably stuck at the advanced intermeadiate level and just don't generate nowhere the same stress levels on equipment like a hard charging expert. Just my theory.

I completely disagree with this. If you're a truly stable skier than perhaps your equipment sees less stress.

 

[millerm277]

I did not ski very well back in the 80s(just learning), but some liners were definitely tightly packed with more dense foam back then.

That's what my liners are like, they seem to nearly never wear out, the foam never compacts.

 

[mister moose]

I completely disagree with this. If you're a truly stable skier than perhaps your equipment sees less stress.

I disagree with you. It's all about cycles and amplitude. Has nothing to do with how stable you are as a skier. The number of cycles determines the amount of internal wear in the ski, and it will progressivley lose its livelyness.

 

[snoseek]

I disagree with you. It's all about cycles and amplitude. Has nothing to do with how stable you are as a skier. The number of cycles determines the amount of internal wear in the ski, and it will progressivley lose its livelyness.

O.K. i guess that makes sense. All I know is I bought my Dalbello at Northern something on the Killington access road about five years ago, have not really taken care of them other than the occasional boot dryer, skied a couple hundred plus days in New England and a couple hundred out here. Are they in good shape? Hell no. Does this really effect performance? Not really. My feet don't hurt in them, there is very little play in the bindings, and they still fit snug. Am I just lucky or low maitenence?


As far as the ski goes I kind of don't care so much about livliness, snap. My older skis now have zero camber and ski soft snow much nicer than they used to. They have just transformed.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

IMHO people who ski on old school skis are:

more experienced skiers than their shorter ski brethren
don't need a quiver of skis to enjoy a day on the hill
not hung up on what kind of equipment others are using
don't have a picture of their skis in their ski forum signature
don't feel the need to record the amount of vert they ski that day
get them tuned by a private tuner
not going to complain about less than perfect conditions

 

[faceplant]

IMHO people who ski on old school skis are:

more experienced skiers than their shorter ski brethren
don't need a quiver of skis to enjoy a day on the hill
not hung up on what kind of equipment others are using
don't have a picture of their skis in their ski forum signature
don't feel the need to record the amount of vert they ski that day
get them tuned by a private tuner
not going to complain about less than perfect conditions

right on brother!
met a guy once who went back to straights...said his shapeds felt like driving a Caddy
:-D

 

[RootDKJ]

I think as we all gear up to head out this weekend, we should all try to capture some pics of people on outdated gear, just for fun.

 

[HD333]

Funny (to me) old gear quote.

Before my wife got her new set up last year we were riding a lift with an old timer who looked at her skis and said "the last time I saw skis that old they were hanging over a fireplace in a lodge" they weren't even that old.

I just wish she was quick enough to respond with something to the effect of "last time I saw a person as old as you he was in a nursing home"

 

[dmc]

I think as we all gear up to head out this weekend, we should all try to capture some pics of people on outdated gear, just for fun.

Probably be easier on Pres Day Weekend.. Lots of old stuff comes out then.. Just smell for mothballs..

 

[Glenn]

I think as we all gear up to head out this weekend, we should all try to capture some pics of people on outdated gear, just for fun.

Will I get bonus points if they're wearing a neon fart bag?

 

[RootDKJ]

Will I get bonus points if they're wearing a neon fart bag?

Of course :beer:

 

[Glenn]

Of course :beer:

Excellent! Hopefully I can get the camera out of my jacket before my hand freezes. Gonna be chilly this weekend!

 

[jrmagic]

I ahve a few guys in my group that still ski long boards. Its not that they dont ski a lot cause they do. They just love them and they are damn good skiers. I've tried to talk them into trying a pair of mine but they never take me up no it.Thankfully they dont wear neon fart bags.

 

[jaja111]

IMHO people who ski on old school skis are:

more experienced skiers than their shorter ski brethren
don't need a quiver of skis to enjoy a day on the hill
not hung up on what kind of equipment others are using
don't have a picture of their skis in their ski forum signature
don't feel the need to record the amount of vert they ski that day
get them tuned by a private tuner
not going to complain about less than perfect conditions

Helllllllll Yes! Add:

-believe that overall, skis are just flat pieces of wood that vary in small degrees regarding how much effort and skill must be shoved into them, and are more over-marketed than pharmaceuticals.
-believes that all skis, straight or shaped, have their own unique personality to be enjoyed.
-get them tuned by themselves.
-believe less than perfect conditions are simply a more difficult puzzle of "Where is a pile of goodness to make a turn amongst danger" needing to be solved.

 

[ERJ-145CA]

I saw a guy earlier this month unlocking his really old, long, straight skis from a Ski Tote. I thought it was pretty funny. There was plenty of new nice equipment around, I didn't think anyone was going to take his stuff.