Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

[deadheadskier]

I understand that - but I am not finding the value. you pay $40 to park, pay way more for the same quality and in Boston these days you are now fighting crowds. The wait staff certainly are making more and their tips will surely be much better but that does not count towards the price of the menu. But the menu helps the tip.

You Individually might not find the value in it, but plenty of people do. As you said, you fought crowds. For the record, I rarely go into even Portsmouth these days for dinner, nevermind Boston. Plenty of great eats walking distance from my home for a lower price.

But it's all simple supply and demand forces. The parking wouldn't be $40 if the demand wasn't there. If that restaurant didn't pay the high rent and labor rates that they have to charge $32 for a shrimp cocktail, someone else will.

 

[boston_e]

still negative via pcr

Great to hear. How many days has it been since you were exposed again?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Great to hear. How many days has it been since you were exposed again?

i'm constantly exposed. i live with my girlfriend in a small apartment. she's keeping to the back room and i'm staying in the front, but the bathroom is back there and the kitchen is in here and i'm not masking in the house. realistically i can contract it any time that i'm here with her, but i reckon she's getting less infectious every day. i'll continue getting tested and won't be going anywhere til next weekend with a neg test first.

she started expressing symptoms on sunday and tested positive tuesday, i've tested negative pcr weds and fri

 

[dblskifanatic]

You Individually might not find the value in it, but plenty of people do. As you said, you fought crowds. For the record, I rarely go into even Portsmouth these days for dinner, nevermind Boston. Plenty of great eats walking distance from my home for a lower price.

But it's all simple supply and demand forces. The parking wouldn't be $40 if the demand wasn't there. If that restaurant didn't pay the high rent and labor rates that they have to charge $32 for a shrimp cocktail, someone else will.

You are right! For some the hustle and bustle is part of the vibe. Not so much for me these days. Prior to moving to Colorado I was all for it, Returning to Boston no longer like it so much.

Certainly are many who are will the pay that is for sure.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Better to let it hang for awhile before butchering. Really takes a lot of the gamie taste out of it

If venison has a "gamie taste" to it, it's because it was handled improperly sometime from time of death to butchering. Could have been a poor shot itself, often it's poor field dressing, letting it hang too long in a suboptimal (i.e. warm) temperature, etc.. I do understand many like to hang their deer 2 to 14 days, but to do so it has to be winter. Hang a deer in Jersey right now for several days in our current 74 to 81 degree temps & that will cause a gamey taste. I dont mess with any of that. I find if you get the deer to the butcher's freezer within just a few hours of death you circumvent the rigor mortis problems which makes hanging the deer for a while beneficial in the first place.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Except some people actually like that gamie taste.

Wait, what now? LOL

 

[abc]

still negative via pcr

That's good news.

 

[VTKilarney]

Interesting analysis from VT Digger:

Vaccinated Vermonters have accounted for roughly 64% of the 42 deaths reported since July 29. That’s the most recent date for which comprehensive data is available, and roughly tracks with estimates by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of when the Delta variant became dominant in the Northeast.

Adjusting for the state’s large fully vaccinated population, unvaccinated Vermonters are still dying from Covid at a slightly higher rate than vaccinated Vermonters, by a factor of about 1.2.

Covid case counts set Vermont records, and state data shows concerning trends on fatalities

Eight weeks of data specific to the Delta variant shows that, while unvaccinated Vermonters remain at significantly higher risk of infection and hospitalization, older vaccinated Vermonters are dying from the

vtdigger.org

 

[boston_e]

Interesting analysis from VT Digger:

Vaccinated Vermonters have accounted for roughly 64% of the 42 deaths reported since July 29. That’s the most recent date for which comprehensive data is available, and roughly tracks with estimates by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of when the Delta variant became dominant in the Northeast.

Adjusting for the state’s large fully vaccinated population, unvaccinated Vermonters are still dying from Covid at a slightly higher rate than vaccinated Vermonters, by a factor of about 1.2.

Covid case counts set Vermont records, and state data shows concerning trends on fatalities

Eight weeks of data specific to the Delta variant shows that, while unvaccinated Vermonters remain at significantly higher risk of infection and hospitalization, older vaccinated Vermonters are dying from the

vtdigger.org

That would be unsuspected I’m sure by most…. Would be interesting to know the profile of those who are indeed dying.

The more interesting stat to me is that appx 5x the number of total cases are happening in the unvaccinated…. A testament that the vaccines are indeed still very effective.

 

[x10003q]

Interesting analysis from VT Digger:

Vaccinated Vermonters have accounted for roughly 64% of the 42 deaths reported since July 29. That’s the most recent date for which comprehensive data is available, and roughly tracks with estimates by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of when the Delta variant became dominant in the Northeast.

Adjusting for the state’s large fully vaccinated population, unvaccinated Vermonters are still dying from Covid at a slightly higher rate than vaccinated Vermonters, by a factor of about 1.2.

Covid case counts set Vermont records, and state data shows concerning trends on fatalities

Eight weeks of data specific to the Delta variant shows that, while unvaccinated Vermonters remain at significantly higher risk of infection and hospitalization, older vaccinated Vermonters are dying from the

vtdigger.org

Interesting that you did not highlight this information also. The quotes are from the article you linked.
"Deaths reported during the Delta wave have skewed toward older age groups. People 60 or older account for roughly 79% of the 42 deaths reported since late July."
"Older Vermonters are statistically more likely to be vaccinated: State data shows that more than 96% of people 60 or older have completed vaccination."

Most of the people who are vaccinated and dying from Covid are over 60. This is why they are adding the booster for older Americans.

 

[Smellytele]

If venison has a "gamie taste" to it, it's because it was handled improperly sometime from time of death to butchering. Could have been a poor shot itself, often it's poor field dressing, letting it hang too long in a suboptimal (i.e. warm) temperature, etc.. I do understand many like to hang their deer 2 to 14 days, but to do so it has to be winter. Hand a deer in Jersey right now for several days in our current 74 to 81 degree temps & that will cause a gamey taste. I dont mess with any of that. I find if you get the deer to the butcher's freezer within just a few hours of death you circumvent the rigor mortis problems which makes hanging the deer for a while beneficial in the first place.

Obviously need to hang it in a cool place. Bring it to the butcher have them hang it in a cool place then butcher and freeze.or do it yourself if your good at it.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Most of the people who are vaccinated and dying from Covid are over 60. This is why they are adding the booster for older Americans.

Most of the people who are unvaccinated and dying from Covid are over 60.

Not sure what you're trying to say here. I really think you want the vaccine to be a magic bullet. It isnt. I still strongly believe everyone should be vaccinated as it confers definite protection, but pretending it is something it is not isnt healthy either. If you look through comments way back in this thread I was very EARLY in suggesting Δ was not something to be ****** with as I was alarmed by what I saw in European papers. But it's naïve to not be worried about the breakthrough ability of this variant. I have no doubt they're eventually going to find that it has evolved some conformational change to the specificity of the protein binding site. That's bad news. The good news is that PFE & MRNA can select for this & come up with a Δ-blocking vaccine likely in a matter of weeks (my guess is they both already have & we just dont know that yet) not dissimilar to the annual flu shot.

 

[deadheadskier]

Most of the people who are unvaccinated and dying from Covid are over 60.

Not sure what you're trying to say here. I really think you want the vaccine to be a magic bullet. It isnt. I still strongly believe everyone should be vaccinated as it confers definite protection, but pretending it is something it is not isnt healthy either. If you look through comments way back in this thread I was very EARLY in suggesting Δ was not something to be ****** with as I was alarmed by what I saw in European papers. But it's naïve to not be worried about the breakthrough ability of this variant. I have no doubt they're eventually going to find that it has evolved some conformational change to the specificity of the protein binding site. That's bad news. The good news is that PFE & MRNA can select for this & come up with a Δ-blocking vaccine likely in a matter of weeks (my guess is they both already have & we just dont know that yet) not dissimilar to the annual flu shot.

Combination of boosters with adjustment for delta plus vaccines for children will hopefully really burn this thing out for the most part.

A friend of mine is an underwriter for disability insurance for some of the largest companies in the country. He counts Walmart as a client. They obviously have many metrics at their disposal, but this is the basic dashboard his business unit receives daily regarding Covid.

It would appear we are on the downslope of the current wave.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

the disco biscuits are playing in brooklyn 3 miles from my apartment outside and all my friends are going to hang out and drink beer all day and i'm not even fucking sick at all but have to stay in this fucking apt with typhoid mary. fuck.

 

[abc]

the disco biscuits are playing in brooklyn 3 miles from my apartment outside and all my friends are going to hang out and drink beer all day and i'm not even fucking sick at all but have to stay in this fucking apt with typhoid mary. fuck.

When was the last time you tested negative?

If work place allow people to work with testing, it would imply the same...

No, I know the science doesn't exactly support that policy. But if you need an excuse to justify going... Especially if you just got tested negative the same day, it's pretty darn close to the margin of justifiable...

 

[KustyTheKlown]

negative friday. still feel fine. not gonna be that guy who goes to a big party with an active covid case in my house.

 

[deadheadskier]

negative friday. still feel fine. not gonna be that guy who goes to a big party with an active covid case in my house.

To be fair, the second leading theory on Covid synthesis was that it was created in some bisco spunions drug lab. You'd likely be in the majority at that show.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

ketamine synthesis gone wildly awry

i'm also a bit annoyed with the event. its a full day festival type situation at the bk mirage, with tdb headlining. but the only other band i care to see (joe russo, john medeski, dave harrington, all improv trio) is at 3:30 PM, then its a bunch of shit i dont want to see (break science, the motet), and then the disco biscuits from 9-12, squeezing in a two set show and setbreak in a 3 hour chunk. a regular 2 set biscuits show and setbreak is 4 hours, so the whole thing is rushed. also ending at 12 on a sunday is annoying. no re-entry, and the venue hits you for like $15 per cocktail and the food there is crap. i have access to a few different free/cheap ways of getting in, but for gen pop this scam is $115 a ticket.

id vastly prefer a regular show to this festival bullshit, with the cool trio opening, whole program running from 6-11, for $50

 

[drjeff]

negative friday. still feel fine. not gonna be that guy who goes to a big party with an active covid case in my house.

My youngest, fully vaccinated, had 3 (non vaccinated) kids in his Chemistry Class test positive this week.

School guidelines for him as a vaccinated individual was that he still could go to school in person with his mask on (just like normal) and had to get a test within 3 days (got the negative results last night).

Same thing in my line of work, if I as a vaccinated person come in contact with a COVID positive person, protocol is unless I develop symptoms, I don't even have to bother getting tested nor miss any work.

Your "out of an abundance of caution" take on this is to be commended. The reality is though that your risk of doing harm to others, for numerous reasons, is incredibly low. That is just what the data behind the science, and not the media headlines, show

 

[KustyTheKlown]

My youngest, fully vaccinated, had 3 (non vaccinated) kids in his Chemistry Class test positive this week.

School guidelines for him as a vaccinated individual was that he still could go to school in person with his mask on (just like normal) and had to get a test within 3 days (got the negative results last night).

Same thing in my line of work, if I as a vaccinated person come in contact with a COVID positive person, protocol is unless I develop symptoms, I don't even have to bother getting tested nor miss any work.

Your "out of an abundance of caution" take on this is to be commended. The reality is though that your risk of doing harm to others, for numerous reasons, is incredibly low. That is just what the data behind the science, and not the media headlines, show

if my exposure was fleeting i would be fully out and about in the world right now. i just happen to live with my vector who continues to cough and hack around my apartment.

theres also an element of preserving domestic harmony at play here. as well as an element of smug satisfaction of not being a hypocrite among my friends