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Permanent Industry Changes in the Post-COVID World

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Not sure what thread we discussed this but…
I wish people would start new threads instead of piling the kitchen sink into one giant thread!

Can anyone remind me why we even have this forum? Why don’t we just pile everything into a jumbo in Facebook?
 

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I wish people would start new threads instead of piling the kitchen sink into one giant thread!

Can anyone remind me why we even have this forum? Why don’t we just pile everything into a jumbo in Facebook?
Actually it was this thread that you spoke about not needing wait staff. So you are part of the problem as well.
 

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I wish people would start new threads instead of piling the kitchen sink into one giant thread!

Can anyone remind me why we even have this forum? Why don’t we just pile everything into a jumbo in Facebook?
Back on topic.

The Delta spike is trending down over the vast majority of the country now

There is a ton of confusion over boosters as to the who, what, where, when and why(if)?

Ski area operators plan on loading most, if not all lifts at capacity

Staffing is going to be an issue this season

There are some people who have been, and will continue to live their lives normally, whereas there are others, unfortunately, who may choose to never live their lives in a way that was "normal" for them 2 years ago
 

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great Summary Dr jeff

I've been for the most part back to normal. I still haven't seen an indoor concert yet, but have been to numerous outside.

I will get a booster when its time in hopes that I can continue to live as normally as possible. if that means masks, then so be it.

Flying to FL tonight through Monday to visit my son at college and spend some time on a beach. its still summer down there 🤮
 

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We went to our first movie since covid because a transformer explosion took out our electricity for a number of hours the other day. We didn’t need to worry about covid because the entire theatre was me, my girlfriend, and one other patron. Apparently the Addams Family 2 cartoon is not such a hot ticket at 9 PM on a weeknight in Brooklyn. Got home and power was restored.
 

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Back on topic.

The Delta spike is trending down over the vast majority of the country now

There is a ton of confusion over boosters as to the who, what, where, when and why(if)?

Ski area operators plan on loading most, if not all lifts at capacity

Staffing is going to be an issue this season

There are some people who have been, and will continue to live their lives normally, whereas there are others, unfortunately, who may choose to never live their lives in a way that was "normal" for them 2 years ago
We’re good friends with a couple that used to go out regularly, but were always agoraphobe-curious at least. Since COVID, they’ve secured mostly WFH status and getting them to go out even a couple of miles from their place is futile, unless it’s outdoors which most things aren’t. Like, they’ve pondered if the gas in one of their cars might go bad because it’s used so infrequently. I think there’s no going back for them. It’s just what they’ve always wanted to do anyway. Disappointing for me but it’s their life.
 

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We paused with indoor dining and concerts for about 4-6 weeks when Delta was starting to take off. Basically early August until Mid-September. I had resumed both in March when I was fully vaccinated and my wife in May.

Now back to 100% return to normal. Things seem to be mostly calming down in our area.
 

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I think any talk about people not living their lives normally is mostly talk at this point. I can't say I really know anybody who isn't more or less living their life as "normal"... apart from a few things that are still in place such as perhaps wearing a mask in stores etc when requested or perhaps working from home has become more of a thing. My parents who are 78 and 81 are perhaps a bit more selective about when / where they go out to eat and are generally more careful in general but that's about it.

Anything that is not "normal" at this point is more due to societies circumstances... supply chain issues or worker shortage issues etc.
 

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There are some people who have been, and will continue to live their lives normally, whereas there are others, unfortunately, who may choose to never live their lives in a way that was "normal" for them 2 years ago

I'm beginning to see this now that we're falling away from reasons to continue on in panic provided you dont have a medical issue/reason. I dont know if it's ignorance, mental trauma from this situation we've found ourselves in, or if on some weird level it excites them. I'm thinking mostly ignorance, but I do find it genuinely sad.
 

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I think any talk about people not living their lives normally is mostly talk at this point. I can't say I really know anybody who isn't more or less living their life as "normal"... apart from a few things that are still in place such as perhaps wearing a mask in stores etc when requested or perhaps working from home has become more of a thing. My parents who are 78 and 81 are perhaps a bit more selective about when / where they go out to eat and are generally more careful in general but that's about it.

Anything that is not "normal" at this point is more due to societies circumstances... supply chain issues or worker shortage issues etc.
We’re good friends with a couple that used to go out regularly, but were always agoraphobe-curious at least. Since COVID, they’ve secured mostly WFH status and getting them to go out even a couple of miles from their place is futile, unless it’s outdoors which most things aren’t. Like, they’ve pondered if the gas in one of their cars might go bad because it’s used so infrequently. I think there’s no going back for them. It’s just what they’ve always wanted to do anyway. Disappointing for me but it’s their life.
I think that pretty much round it all up.

Some people never care for big crowds. They go because it’s the ”in“ thing. You can count me as one such. So now, with increased risk, I‘m more than happy to cut out one thing I never really care very much even pre-pandemic.

The other things I haven’t resume doing, are all the indoor stuff that requires mask. I’m not anti-mask. I’m just not comfortable wearing a mask. I can tolerate it for 30 minutes in the doctor’s office. But that’s only because I had to. For entertainment? Mask and entertainment just doesn’t go together for me!

I never like crowded subways. But I did it years and years because it‘s the only way to get around in NYC. Still never really like it. I’m going to delay using it for as long as I possibly can. On the other hand, I’ve taken the commuter rail many, many times. I only wish I don’t have to keep my mask on for the hour long ride.

For me, I will go back to “normal” when mask can be removed. That said, my ”new normal” probably has far less time spent in crowded indoor places. (I don’t exactly qualify as a “phobia”, but I avoid crowds whenever I can even before the pandemic)
 

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I'm beginning to see this now that we're falling away from reasons to continue on in panic provided you dont have a medical issue/reason. I dont know if it's ignorance, mental trauma from this situation we've found ourselves in, or if on some weird level it excites them. I'm thinking mostly ignorance, but I do find it genuinely sad.

My father (in good health, relatively young at 65) still wears disposable gloves at the gas station....
 

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My father (in good health, relatively young at 65) still wears disposable gloves at the gas station....
It's not a bad idea.

It's either wash hands after pumping gas, or wear gloves. It's not just Covid. Who knows what the person before you had touched before they pump gas?
 

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pretty much back to normal in my private life. Going to shows, restaurants, out shopping and never wear masks. At work I have no choice working in hospitals I have to wear a mask and may forever going forward if it is mandated by them or not.
 

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Wearing a mask..on a ladder..with glasses on..not doing it..Im out in 2 months so no more worries about that..dangerouse as hell..the mask with glasses on screws up your vision and depth perception.
 

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Wearing a mask..on a ladder..with glasses on..not doing it..Im out in 2 months so no more worries about that..dangerouse as hell..the mask with glasses on screws up your vision and depth perception.
That is a challenge for sure - needing safety glasses plus a mask is challenging - i have not found a good way yet to make the glasses not fog up.
 

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That is a challenge for sure - needing safety glasses plus a mask is challenging - i have not found a good way yet to make the glasses not fog up.
I wear my glasses, safety glasses and a respirator for my job. It is difficult, and there is basically no way to eliminate the fog.
 

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At work, I do what it's needed for safety. I'm now working at a desk. But there was a time I had to wear all sort of protective gear. It's never exactly comfortable. But it's work. I managed. Besides, I got paid, to do thing I may not exactly like!

But for recreation? Watching a show/concert for 3 hours wearing a mask that aren't comfortable? I'd rather not. (there're of course exceptions. I wore mask for short period say, on the chair lift, elevator of hotels, etc. But not for the entire duration of my time there like in a concert)

I honestly don't have anything against masks. Not in theory anyway. But that's until I wore them for extended period of time. That's when I realize I just can't get comfortable with the thing. So I don't want to do anything that requires me to wear a mask for extended period of time that's not paying me.
 
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