Sure, but all of those take a big hit too when tourism goes down.
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Ski Resort Response to COVID-19
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BenedictGomez
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I think it’s more interesting that somebody who travels to Saratoga County, NY quarantines when they return home to Vermont, but doesn't similarly quarantine when they were in a Vermont town with a higher COVID19 positivity rate than Saratoga County, NY.
That said, I've seen & heard a lot of ****** up things the last 7 months.
Harvey
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Interesting from the NYT email digest this am:
The coronavirus is spreading more rapidly in rural areas of the U.S. than in urban areas. But one rural state continues to do a fabulous job keeping the virus away: Vermont.
Vermont is succeeding partly because it has not allowed the virus to become a partisan issue. The Republican governor, Phil Scott — unlike many other Republican politicians around the country — has consistently told people to take the virus seriously. “He started wearing a mask early in the pandemic and has stood at the back of the room in many of the state’s coronavirus briefings, letting Dr. Mark Levine, Vermont’s answer to Dr. Anthony Fauci, dominate proceedings,” Bill McKibben, a Vermont resident, wrote in The New Yorker.
Vermont also benefits from having a high degree of social trust among its residents, as Maria Sacchetti explained in The Washington Post. And Vermont has two strong local media organizations — VTDigger and Seven Days — that keep residents informed and that both took an intriguing step early in the pandemic, McKibben notes: They shut down their comments sections, to prevent misinformation from spreading.
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Source: https://nytimes.com
The coronavirus is spreading more rapidly in rural areas of the U.S. than in urban areas. But one rural state continues to do a fabulous job keeping the virus away: Vermont.
Vermont is succeeding partly because it has not allowed the virus to become a partisan issue. The Republican governor, Phil Scott — unlike many other Republican politicians around the country — has consistently told people to take the virus seriously. “He started wearing a mask early in the pandemic and has stood at the back of the room in many of the state’s coronavirus briefings, letting Dr. Mark Levine, Vermont’s answer to Dr. Anthony Fauci, dominate proceedings,” Bill McKibben, a Vermont resident, wrote in The New Yorker.
Vermont also benefits from having a high degree of social trust among its residents, as Maria Sacchetti explained in The Washington Post. And Vermont has two strong local media organizations — VTDigger and Seven Days — that keep residents informed and that both took an intriguing step early in the pandemic, McKibben notes: They shut down their comments sections, to prevent misinformation from spreading.
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Source: https://nytimes.com
Mad River Glen stopped selling passes a couple weeks ago as a result of high demand.
The crowds this season will be epic. Combined with reduced uphill capacity, it’s going to be sheer misery.
Edd
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Reduced uphill capacity? You mean less than other hills?
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the gentleman above probably doesn't know anything about running a small buisness. Small buisness ie ski shops/restaurants work a very slim margin. You take 10% buisness away from them, most of them will close before the end of the season. Thats what 10% does.
abc
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I think he's talking about the policy of not filling the chairs to full capacity.
Smaller hills with no high capacity lifts (quad, 6 pack, gondola) may actually fair better in terms of "reduced uphill capacity". A double will very likely get filled, social distance or not, with a very small exceptions. Quad will rarely get filled. How they manage 6 pack and gondolas? I'm not holding my breath (literally)
Edd
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Thanks, I get what you guys are saying now.
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How will crowds be epic when resorts are on a reservation system?
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Smellytele
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LOS(loss of service) to his head. lift lines could still suck though. Also haven't seen any mention of what the spacing in a lift line will look like.
abc
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Not all the mountains are doing reservation.
slatham
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This sums it up nicely....
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kingslug
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That sums it up. Don't see how a day of skiing can get you infected or you can infect someone else..if..
Put your stuff on in the parking lot.
get on line
ski
repeat.
go home
Put your stuff on in the parking lot.
get on line
ski
repeat.
go home
In vt/nh, how many are requiring reservations? The only ones I’ve heard so far are Killington and Loon. Are there others?
If there are, fantastic. But if not, my point stands - there is a tremendous amount of anecdotal evidence that pass sales (in general) are through the roof, which reflects an overwhelming desire to get outdoors. I hope that the lack of facilities - and irrational fear of covid - will help keep the crowds at bay, but all in all I’m bracing myself for stupidly long line lift lines, and, consequently, less runs and less skiing.
jimmywilson69
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All of the Vail owned resorts require reservations
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Damn - should have bought an Epic pass...
dlague
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Pass sales may be up because many places have pass holder priority or pass holder require no reservations. Otherwise, lift tickets have to be purchased at least 2 days in advance to some places requiring up to two weeks in advance and online only!
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BenedictGomez
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Judging from this post, there is more you are not "aware of" when it comes to clinical investigation of potential vaccines & therapies, than you are aware of. FWIW, there are many COVID19 vaccines which are currently well into Phase III testing, all of which are gold standard, double-blinded, placebo-controlled, randomized studies, with thousands to tens-of-thousands of patients fully enrolled, & with advanced statistical analysis & followup.
For non-conspiracy theorists who may be interested in this subject, RAPS does a nice job tracking COVID19 trials
https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
Did it ever dawn on you that it might be far easier to develop & take a relatively simple proteinous vaccine through Phase III, than say, a novel monoclonal antibody therapy for metastatic breast cancer?
That was a rhetorical question.
I doubt someone with your bent can be convinced otherwise, but other than the small players with a hand in it who may do well, there's not much "money" to be made by the large pharmaceutical companies in COVID19 vaccines.
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abc
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Epic pass is still on sale. And only a $20-30 increase from the early purchase price.
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