Steepest slope in the east

[awf170]

I just figured out by doing some math that alfs high rustler at alta has a average pitch of somewhere in between 30-35(this is from the top to the cut across where it turns to groomed) my guess is the very top is about 40-45 degrees. Here is a pic of it.

 

[awf170]

just did the math the top is about 45 degrees + or - a couple

now compared to the east i dont think anything is that steep or maybe just that steep for about a 100 ft.
I think chilemass would agree with me :wink:

 

[awf170]

after finding out some info on trails i did at snowbird and alta from liftlines. I would say that the steepest thing in the east inbounds is under 40 or right at 40 degrees. And white nitro i would say at is steepest section is 35-40 degrees those liers dont they claim it at 55, maybe if they make a giant snowmaking wave :wink:

 

[skintowin]

My vote for steepest run inbounds is for Paradise at MRG.

Depending on who you ask, Paradise is technically OB. Octapus's Garden is steeper, but certainly OB.

Technically yes, but it's on the trail map and it has a trail marker sign on it...to me that's inbounds. The Garden is definitely OB.

Octopus is definitely steeper. There's also that pitch in the woods below Ferret that's a real bowel-clencher. It's not very long, but damn is it steep!

 

[smootharc]

Rumor

Its very hard to go by just looking at pictures. It all depends on how the pic it taken if it looks steep or not.

have you skiied rumor and if you did what do you think of it

Skied Rumor many times last winter - and yes, steep....that kind of smooth/groomed steep that is so different from naturally skied bumped up steep. Are my edges sharp ? The bumped steeps are actually, in my opinion, much safer and easier to ski. The left side of Rumor, from top, is a definite thrill, but only a 3-4 check turn section.

The comparison to the right side of Upper FIS at SB south is pretty good, though I just like the FIS experience much better. But I'm skiing both of those eyes closed compared to the Rumble's and Paradise's of the world - where natural obstacles and double fall line factors, well....steep vs. difficult is two different animals. One barks, one bites.

If steeps are discussed, the suggestion of "steep section" versus "steep sustained" definitely shades the issue as it relates to overall difficulty. Then, if you toss in things like double fall line's, which make a particular steep a whole different animal, all other things being kept equal, then.....on and on and on we go.

Steep vs. difficult are interesting, and very different things.


My Suunto ski watch has an angle calculator - works on wrist for degrees or % of pitch. There's also a pocket slope meter made by the Avalanche folks out in Jackson (forgot the company name) for slope angle as it relates to avy danger. It's a nifty little thing powered by gravity.

 

[dmc]

Re: Rumor

[steep vs. difficult is two different animals. One barks, one bites.

true...
And lets not forget "fall and die(or get seriously hurt)" terrain....

Steepness is subjective... Angles constantly change duee to weather, melt, snowmaking, etc... A measurement one day will not be the same the next week...

The bowl at Tucks isn't that bad when there's a ton of snow - but as it melts it gets steeper...

 

[Greg]

Re: Rumor

If steeps are discussed, the suggestion of "steep section" versus "steep sustained" definitely shades the issue as it relates to overall difficulty. Then, if you toss in things like double fall line's, which make a particular steep a whole different animal, all other things being kept equal, then.....on and on and on we go.

Steep vs. difficult are interesting, and very different things.

You ain't kidding. I've never skied Rumble, but Liftline at Castlerock, while not overly steep, is very difficult. Rocks, thin cover:



...and a very pronounced double fall line:



That was a humbling run...

 

[NHpowderhound]

Ahh, the double falline.
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[JimG.]

Octopus is definitely steeper. There's also that pitch in the woods below Ferret that's a real bowel-clencher. It's not very long, but damn is it steep!

Been down Octopus, don't think I've been down any woods near Ferret. I gotta figure out a way to get to MRG more often (more than a week a season) and get me some more local knowledge.

 

[thetrailboss]

Love double fall-lines.

 

[Greg]

Love double fall-lines.

Organgrinder:



Seems like the 'Bush has a lot of DFLs.

 

[thetrailboss]

Love double fall-lines.

Organgrinder:



Seems like the 'Bush has a lot of DFLs.

Yes, Double Fall Lines are a trademark of old New England ski terrain. Burke, MRG, and the 'bush have a lot of them. Other areas bulldozed/graded them out.

The DFL on Middlebury Snow Bowl's "Allen Race Trail" (skier's right) is downright extreme...

 

[smootharc]

And don't forget the joys of.....

Love double fall-lines.

....going over the handle bars on a double fall line run....thus making it a triple fall line....

:wink: