Steepness of runs

[awf170]

It might be better to find the maximum steepness for 100 feet instead of the average steepness for 800 feet.

The room for error would be too high, unless there were more exact topo maps and a website with more of a zoom. I did 300-400 ft. of vertical on average anyway and in most cases that wasn't that much different that a 100 ft. range anyway. I would say even if I did do 100 ft. ranges that still there would only be a few runs over 40 degrees.

 

[awf170]

Slide #3 - 32.9 degree average for 820 ft. (conservative estimate)

I did a follow up and it looks closer to 35.2 degrees for 820ft. It is somewhere in that range.

Oh snap. He's right.:-o I got 35 degrees for 250m of vertical

Outer Limits, Killington: 29.5 degrees for 400 ft. of vertical and 23.5 degrees for 1,000 ft. of vertical

Hurricane, Pats Peak: 26.5 degrees for 200 ft. of vertical

Tims Trauma, Attitash: 22 degrees for 400 ft. of vertical

 

[shwilly]

a trail like White Heat at Sunday River is a little different. There were many snow "whales" on the trail this year, which would create plateau's of sorts all the way down the trail. Parts of the trail were ~10 degrees or so, however the remainder of the trail was upwards of 45-50~ steep, we even got a picture of one that appears to be concave as if falling in over itself, it was an unreal sight...

Come on, now. I did White Heat this year, and the snowmaking whales did not bring the pitch to 45-50 for any meaningful portion of the trail. I would bet it never touched 45 at any point.

I disagree that maximum steepness = steepness of the trail, no matter how short. If you huck off a rock, you don't say you did a 90 degree trail for 6 feet.

Corbet's Couloir, Great Scott, and the Blowhole are all around 45 degrees. Nothing at Sunday River is remotely like those trails.

 

[riverc0il]

there is a reason they call the trail "white hype!" :lol:

 

[ALLSKIING]

Looking at these numbers make me realize what a guy like Doug Coombs usually skies. I watched a movie of him skiing a 55 degrees chute that had over 4k vert. It really puts things into perspecitive.

 

[kingslug]

So now I have to wonder if upper K-27 at Hunter is really 38 degrees. The top of it is really steep, not a fun fall.

 

[EPB]

there is a reason they call the trail "white hype!"

Speaking of white hype, white nitro at the loaf claims 52 degrees although some guys at the unofficial loaf chat said theyve measured it's steep sections at around 35-37.

 

[ALLSKIING]

The top of it is really steep, not a fun fall.

Are you speaking from experience?:wink:

 

[eatskisleep]

Looking at these numbers make me realize what a guy like Doug Coombs usually skies. I watched a movie of him skiing a 55 degrees shoot that had over 4k vert. It really puts things into perspecitive.

Rest in Peace Doug Coombs.

 

[kcyanks1]

Speaking of white hype, white nitro at the loaf claims 52 degrees although some guys at the unofficial loaf chat said theyve measured it's steep sections at around 35-37.

I haven't been to Sugarloaf so I have no basis for commenting on White Nitro, but whenever I heard a trail, at least in the east, being reported at >40 degrees I become pretty skeptical. Except if it's a 60 degree trail with a triple fall line at Denton (should I have not brought that up? )

 

[kingslug]

Are you speaking from experience?:wink:

Oh yes. It's almost impossible to recover. The bumps are huge. You feel like a pinball.

 

[salida]

Come on, now. I did White Heat this year, and the snowmaking whales did not bring the pitch to 45-50 for any meaningful portion of the trail. I would bet it never touched 45 at any point.

I disagree that maximum steepness = steepness of the trail, no matter how short. If you huck off a rock, you don't say you did a 90 degree trail for 6 feet.

Corbet's Couloir, Great Scott, and the Blowhole are all around 45 degrees. Nothing at Sunday River is remotely like those trails.

Whoa silly willy, no need to hope on the bandwagon of disparaging east coast terrain. Trust me I have skied legit 45 degree runs on the west coast, East Wall from the near summit of a-basin comes to mind, or doa at Whistler. I know what a legit steep run looks like.

As you may have skied White Hype this year, yes it was not steep all year. The point was, with the whales it had on it around christmas time, there were areas of steepness that were in the 40degree range. Yes only for 30 or so feet, but the point was that snow depth on the trail changes the feel of the run so that it shapes in the trail to be steeper than it normally would be, not to get into a war about how steep white heat is because its a boring trail. I'll make sure to pull out the video to show you how steep it is.

-Porter

 

[shwilly]

Not disparaging; I like the White Cap area a lot, and I go to SR all the time. I was just saying that it would take a lot of snow to make White Heat one of the steepest runs in North America. I know what you mean about the whales, though. It looked like a snow staircase from the lift, and on the way down it was like riding a roller coaster.

 

[marcski]

Stowe's Website claims National is 30 degrees overall and Starr and Goat are 34-37 in places.

http://www.stowe.com/mountain/trailmap.php

(launch the map and then scroll over the trails).

 

[dmc]

I'll think about this thread at Tucks in a day or two..

You havent experienced steep until you ski over the headwall(not the Lip) and everything just drops out from underneath you. Yes - there's steeper out west - but it's an amazing experience..

 

[takeahike46er]

Stowe's Website claims National is 30 degrees overall...

I approximated 25.2 degrees average for its length, and that was assuming it was a straight-shot down that face of the mountain (which it isn't quite). While not the 30 they claim that is still an impressive pitch sustained over 1000 + feet.



Slide #1: 30.9 degrees over 1148 ft. (350m).

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Slide #1: 30.9 degrees over 1148 ft. (350m).

46er, I have no idea how you guys figure this stuff out. If you can would you post the degrees and length for all the Slides? I've always wanted that info, but was never able to find it.

 

[JimG.]

46er, I have no idea how you guys figure this stuff out. If you can would you post the degrees and length for all the Slides? I've always wanted that info, but was never able to find it.

At this piont I don't even know where they're talking about anymore...I thought this was referring to the Gulf of Slides on Mt. Washington.

The best way to find out the steepness of a run is to climb it and ski it.

 

[hammer]

Hurricane, Pats Peak: 26.5 degrees for 200 ft. of vertical

Interesting...in last year's response to the AZ Challenge, Lori Cayouette said the pitch is a consistent 35 degrees with some sustained pitches of 45.

Not that I'm splitting hairs over this one...Hurricane is definitely a steep trail, especially for an area as small as Pats.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

At this piont I don't even know where they're talking about anymore...I thought this was referring to the Gulf of Slides on Mt. Washington.

The best way to find out the steepness of a run is to climb it and ski it.

46er was talking about the Slides at Whiteface. I'd like the info for my personal use if possible, that's all.