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The 2/23 - 2/26 Storm Discussion Thread

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Any thoughts on Waterville Valley for Friday? Particularly the drive in from 93, as well as the conditions? Base el. is 1800 or so is it not? thx
 

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Lastly, I find this map to be very intriguing for you. I am unclear what the start date was. Trust but verify...
StormTotalSnowFcst.png
I was looking earlier today via your toolbox (do you know that "skiers toolbox" on google pulls your site up as the first result!?!). I am pretty sure that was prior to yesterday when it was made. It is laughingly insulting given Cannon's 3" so far (with rain at the base today according to reports from the road). And of course for areas that actually did get snow, that map is not a NET total minus losses to rain and compacting which will likely occur.

Tomorrow will be interesting to see how this thing turns around and hopefully gets us ready for the weekend. I thought for sure (just a few days ago) that I was going to be hating life on Friday and loving life on Saturday. Right now, I would be more than happy with any place reporting in with a half foot of fresh Saturday morning. Looking forward to weather prognostications Friday evening. For now, the precip has turned back to rain judging from the rain drop sounds hitting my skylight.
 

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I'm not so sure about that, based on reports, I have not heard that it rained at Killington/Pico, Sugarloaf, and Saddleback. I am sure the conditions aren't going to be as good as what you had at Magic, but still very good.
I'd be happy to eat my words when I see some first hand beta. If the temps were a bit lower, I would be with you all the way. But with 39 degrees in Rutland at 7PM, 0.32" of rain in the last 6 hours, I'm not so sure.
Don't forget the most important lesson in reading resort reports: What they don't say is vastly more important than what they do say.
I am more optimistic for Saddleback and Sugarloaf. Have heard nothing on Sunday River.
I hope you are right!
 
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Any thoughts on Waterville Valley for Friday? Particularly the drive in from 93, as well as the conditions? Base el. is 1800 or so is it not? thx

Another day we have to resist over analyzing. Things are simply too marginal. I don't think we'll know what we've got until we wake up in the morning and see the reports. An inch or two of new snow will not excite me, it's not enough to cover damage done. Now, talk to me about 8" +, which is a distinct possibility if it gets started early enough.
 

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Wow! starting to get dangerous here... power outages being reported... plow couldn't make it up my hill after 2 former passes... went out to knock off snow from the power line to the house and cable and heard trees cracking. I'm 30 miles west of the hudson river where it's raining but here its Nome Alaska. the weather map is just nuts basically total rain east of the hudson and snow west.. incredible looking. Creek will be just nuts tomorrow and sat.:-o:-o:-o
 

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I was looking earlier today via your toolbox (do you know that "skiers toolbox" on google pulls your site up as the first result!?!). I am pretty sure that was prior to yesterday when it was made. It is laughingly insulting given Cannon's 3" so far (with rain at the base today according to reports from the road). And of course for areas that actually did get snow, that map is not a NET total minus losses to rain and compacting which will likely occur.

Tomorrow will be interesting to see how this thing turns around and hopefully gets us ready for the weekend. I thought for sure (just a few days ago) that I was going to be hating life on Friday and loving life on Saturday. Right now, I would be more than happy with any place reporting in with a half foot of fresh Saturday morning. Looking forward to weather prognostications Friday evening. For now, the precip has turned back to rain judging from the rain drop sounds hitting my skylight.

Great points. I find myself looking at temp maps, precip maps and snowfall maps. If I could get them all animated, I'd have a better sense. I really like the VAD radar. I have seen it somewhere for precip types - rain, snow, fog. If they had some radar stations in the mountains, it would help, but you know r how well adar and hills play together.... Someday.

Tthere are three weather stations on Stratton - base, mid and summit - which make for an interesting read. right now it's 33 at the base, 31 mid and 29 at the summit @3900'. Automated stations suck at snowfall rate data collection. It's gotta be snowing there now.

I'd love to see an automated station on Mansfield -chit, they already have all the electronic transmission stuff up there.

Honestly, I sometimes hate having too much data at hand. 30 years ago, you just went and didn't know until you got there - more adventurous. But then again, the weather wasn't as odd.

Funny about the toolbox - it's just a dumb-a$$ collection of links organized haphazardly just for my own convenience, to grab it anywhere. I'm having too much fun skiing to spend time making it pretty. Long ago I made sure my web was well-indexed. I need to go check the hit count. (update: 490 hits this month. Most of them are probably mine! Funny how Google works isn't it?)
 

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Honestly, I sometimes hate having too much data at hand. 30 years ago, you just went and didn't know until you got there - more adventurous. But then again, the weather wasn't as odd.
On the flip side, if you choose the wrong location back in the day, you didn't come home to a couple dozen reports talking about how epic their day at the other mountain was. :lol:
 

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That was all yesterday's news, sorry. Some places are being deliberately slow at updates, trying to milk the good news from the dump. The facts are plain: It rained everywhere today. Tomorrow's temps are marginal. If they get no snow, you'll likely be skiing FGR.
You can only pray and hope for new snow and make a last minute call. Damn New England, that's seems to be the thing to do to hit the best stuff. Watch snowforecast.com, find reports from any place with 2000' and higher el, since that's Wildcat's base. Remember, yesterday in SVT, the temp stayed at 32 in the valley all day. Forecast for No conway calls for a high on Friday in the upper 30s, - it will be a close call at Wildcat, but don't call it out yet. Don't forget to call Wildcat and speak with a breathing person.

Lastly, I find this map to be very intriguing for you. I am unclear what the start date was. Trust but verify...
StormTotalSnowFcst.png

mind posting the Vermont section of that map please

thanks
 

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I'd be happy to eat my words when I see some first hand beta. If the temps were a bit lower, I would be with you all the way. But with 39 degrees in Rutland at 7PM, 0.32" of rain in the last 6 hours, I'm not so sure.
Don't forget the most important lesson in reading resort reports: What they don't say is vastly more important than what they do say.
I am more optimistic for Saddleback and Sugarloaf. Have heard nothing on Sunday River.
I hope you are right!

Look at the Pico webcam...It is dumping...From what I have read on Kzone, It changed to sleet for about 30 minutes around 3 o'clock but that's it.
 

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Yes, I have been lurking a lot on KZone hoping that everything is OK for this weekend. Maybe the run to the Skyeship base will not fair too well, but I think K really dodged a bullet on this one. I'm looking forward to first chair on Sat and Sun.

Best thing is that I think a lot of people will look at all the r*in we've gotten and stay home. I'm hoping for that.
 

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Another day we have to resist over analyzing. Things are simply too marginal. I don't think we'll know what we've got until we wake up in the morning and see the reports. An inch or two of new snow will not excite me, it's not enough to cover damage done. Now, talk to me about 8" +, which is a distinct possibility if it gets started early enough.

Fair enough. Well, good luck and safe passage to us all.
 

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prediction for tom for Jay and Saturday? Is N VT missing out from this part?

Cameron has as good an answer as anyone, and is probably more reliable:
http://snowforecast.com/JayPeak

check back mid morning when he does his updates.

there will be skiing and the rain will be gone. It's a matter of snow quality that is entirely unknown right now. On that hairy edge all over New England. If I was a betting man (and wasn't already committed), I'd probably be in Maine.
 
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