Agreed. 100% perfectly timed to avoid having to talk about it at the state of the mountain speech. Also well timed after the recent survey to local homeowners.
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The "Sugarbush Thread"
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Thats what my mom called it.
Wait….the line cutting is only for Bravo? That’s lame.
Alterra pulled the same crap at Solitude about 4 years ago when announcing paid parking.
“I’ll take ‘No’ for $1,000, Alex.”
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Gee I wonder why they call it Mascara Mountain?
4aprice
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Boy they were really going off on this on Reddit. But haven't these line cutting programs been around in various forms for a while? Maybe I haven't been at the right places at the right time but I can't recall ever being held up more then say your normal ski school class by these programs. I guess if your trying to score powder especially here in the east it could be annoying, but, its not something that's been noticable to me.
The private bar? We have one at Granby Ranch. Its nice however I think I would rather be at Castlerock Pub amongst the folks. We had a really fun afternoon there last season. Some fun people there
The private bar? We have one at Granby Ranch. Its nice however I think I would rather be at Castlerock Pub amongst the folks. We had a really fun afternoon there last season. Some fun people there
machski
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Was thinking the same, though it has been decades upon decades since SB has been referred this way. Like since the Gondi came off of Lincoln era. But seems Alterra may be trying to resurrect that tag name, without the fancy (in its day) lifts
They either need their own pass or you can use your 2 daily day passes that are included (an extra $99 per day pass when used).
kind of a paltry return for 2k/person. I actually think a members club would be cool if it was open all the time and had lockers, hot tubs, spa, dining etc. But 2k to get a drink on weekends doesnt do it for me. I wonder what kind of demand there is going to be for this.
I've never been but isn't that a similar concept to Club Ten?
Exactly. I wouldn't use a 60-year old reference in this case.Was thinking the same, though it has been decades upon decades since SB has been referred this way. Like since the Gondi came off of Lincoln era. But seems Alterra may be trying to resurrect that tag name, without the fancy (in its day) lifts
Plowboy
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!976/77 Vernon Valley-Great Gorge. If you had a $25 annual membership to the Vernon Playboy Club you got preferred lift lines with the purchase of season passes.
So my guess is that Alterra HQ issued an edict to their owned resorts saying that additional revenue generation is needed--perhaps to cover falling IKON revenue and their drunken spending at Deer Valley and Steamboat. Now you are seeing these "last minute" changes at their resorts. For example, A-Basin now is "unlimited" for IKON Base in the early season perhaps to drive more ancillary revenue from F&B, etc. Here, let's say that the target for Sugarbush was to make $500,000 or so more with little or no cost. So the proposal here was this scheme that only requires 250 or so individuals. They probably looked at their demographic data and came up with this idea--it only requires a relatively small group folks to bite and costs little to nothing in the grand scheme of things.
If this was a local idea then it would have been disclosed at the meeting this weekend. But my guess is that this was an order from on high. So much for everyone's hope of local control at Sugarbush.
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Hawk
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Similar but at Club Ten, you need to be sponsored by a member and voted in. you can't buy your way in I was told. They also have a chef or at least they used to.
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Stratton has the Stratton Mountain Club, a completely separate lodge that has lockers, separate ski storage, dining, and some parking. There is usually a waiting list to become members. I do not know what it costs to become a member, but popular hearsay says the number is $200k (or more) plus monthly fees. You get the big number back if you leave. If you are a member of the SMC you can also buy the Speed Bear Pass that gets you on the lifts right away. I think it can be used on all the Stratton lifts, but I am not sure. There are so few people who use it that it really is not noticeable. You might be able to buy the Speed Bear Pass if you belong to the Stratton Homeowners Club.
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The early access pass is available as a $599 add on to anybody with an Ikon/season pass.
machski
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IDK about the A-Basin change. That may be Alterra's response to Vails renewed focus on early season turns at Keystone. Isn't Epic Local pretty much unlimited there? Seems to me that may be the play with A-Basin early season unlimited through mid December (granted Copper does open to public fairly early in November but not as fast as Keystone rolls out given Copper's race training initial focus).
4aprice
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Maybe with A Basin, Alterra is just trying to bait people into up grading their pass especially for the spring season. I know my son always saves his A Basin days for the spring much like several on this board save their Killington days. Get them to taste test it and maybe they buy. Like I said parking will always be an issue there.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the original Mayflower project seperate from Deer Valley? I mean if it was, I think it is more Alterra taking advantage of an opportunity expand (and ship some of the skiing traffic over to the east side of the Wasatch instead of Park City) then "drunk spending". I don't blame them for absorbing that. Much like Vail took advantage of the situation at Park City then absorbed Canyons. The Steamboat expansion? I've only gotten there 1 day in the last 2 years but thought the gondola to the top was a good improvement.
Alterra is mostly on my radar for Winter Park. Obviously a Front Range area that does very well. They got some pretty exciting plans including a Gondola that will serve the town of WInter Park a terrain expansion west of the Cirque. I'm excited.
I only get to the east coast resorts 1 weekend a season (ok Stratton maybe a couple of days more cause its closest to home). Maybe the Sugarbush people need to have a little patience. They did do Heavens Gate and they are improving Stratton with the Tamarack replacement (which is needed). All these places are just so big and complex to run that not only do they need the financial backing but they also can't do it all at once either.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the original Mayflower project seperate from Deer Valley? I mean if it was, I think it is more Alterra taking advantage of an opportunity expand (and ship some of the skiing traffic over to the east side of the Wasatch instead of Park City) then "drunk spending". I don't blame them for absorbing that. Much like Vail took advantage of the situation at Park City then absorbed Canyons. The Steamboat expansion? I've only gotten there 1 day in the last 2 years but thought the gondola to the top was a good improvement.
Alterra is mostly on my radar for Winter Park. Obviously a Front Range area that does very well. They got some pretty exciting plans including a Gondola that will serve the town of WInter Park a terrain expansion west of the Cirque. I'm excited.
I only get to the east coast resorts 1 weekend a season (ok Stratton maybe a couple of days more cause its closest to home). Maybe the Sugarbush people need to have a little patience. They did do Heavens Gate and they are improving Stratton with the Tamarack replacement (which is needed). All these places are just so big and complex to run that not only do they need the financial backing but they also can't do it all at once either.
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