The "Sugarbush Thread"

[WinS]

the vass addition will be done for this upcoming season?
Surprised SB didnt expand the lodge at least under the deck while the vass project was going on. Seems like it would have been easy/cheap if the deck was being replaced anyway.

The existing water and septic requirements did do not allow for anymore expansion.

 

[thetrailboss]

FYI:

Sugarbush Raises Minimum Wage to $15

SAM Magazine—Warren, Vt., August 5, 2021—Sugarbush Resort raised its minimum wage to $15 per hour for all non-tipped positions. To maintain the pay differe

www.saminfo.com

No surprise. On my recent visit, a lot of places could not fully reopen because there are NO employees or people looking for work.

 

[djd66]

FYI:

Sugarbush Raises Minimum Wage to $15

SAM Magazine—Warren, Vt., August 5, 2021—Sugarbush Resort raised its minimum wage to $15 per hour for all non-tipped positions. To maintain the pay differe

www.saminfo.com

No surprise. On my recent visit, a lot of places could not fully reopen because there are NO employees or people looking for work.

Exactly the reason why there is absolutely no need for the government to raise the minimum wage to $15/hr. Adam Smiths invisible hand at work. Take note all socialists.

 

[IceEidolon]

Exactly the reason why there is absolutely no need for the government to raise the minimum wage to $15/hr. Adam Smiths invisible hand at work. Take note all socialists.

I'd rather see businesses like Sugarbush that are doing the right thing and raising wages not be unfairly disadvantaged by competitors paying less, even if it's marginally less.

 

[Smellytele]

I'd rather see businesses like Sugarbush that are doing the right thing and raising wages not be unfairly disadvantaged by competitors paying less, even if it's marginally less.

DOn't think that they aren't doing this for their own good as well. To get employees they needed to raise their pay rate. Do it earlier than the other guys then you get the employees first.

 

[rocks860]

Yeah I called on Friday of this week and got a reservation for both, Friday for flatbread and saturday for peasant

 

[IceEidolon]

DOn't think that they aren't doing this for their own good as well. To get employees they needed to raise their pay rate. Do it earlier than the other guys then you get the employees first.

If it wasn't good for business they wouldn't do it, but it's still good to see wages rising.

 

[dblskifanatic]

I'd rather see businesses like Sugarbush that are doing the right thing and raising wages not be unfairly disadvantaged by competitors paying less, even if it's marginally less.

They will not be disadvantaged! They will get people because they are paying $15 and those that do not will be disadvantaged.

 

[djd66]

If it wasn't good for business they wouldn't do it, but it's still good to see wages rising.

It because they need to attract employees and not for a marketing play. People are not willing to work for the current $11.75 minimum wage, so they are offering what they think the market will bare. Good for business? Ah, yeah - they need employees to run the business - as most businesses do.

 

[IceEidolon]

DBL, they'd only be disadvantaged in the sense that another resort paying $13/hr instead will have theoretically better margins. Some of that will be made up in intangibles by hiring better or more easily.

 

[tumbler]

The $15/hr min wage is a good step and will hopefully generate some more employees, but what hurts the Valley is the small labor pool to pull from and the lack of affordable housing for the $15/hr seasonal worker.

 

[Smellytele]

The $15/hr min wage is a good step and will hopefully generate some more employees, but what hurts the Valley is the small labor pool to pull from and the lack of affordable housing for the $15/hr seasonal worker.

How will it effect the small businesses in the valley that now need to compete with getting seasonal help at this rate?

 

[ss20]

The $15/hr min wage is a good step and will hopefully generate some more employees, but what hurts the Valley is the small labor pool to pull from and the lack of affordable housing for the $15/hr seasonal worker.

Correct. And with employees making more $$$$ you should expect prices for the seasonal rentals they live in to go up.

This is why the people arguing for ridiculous wages for ski resort employees made no sense ($15 isn't ridiculous....$20 or $25 is). The wages aren't the key issue in most places, it's the housing. If 2,000 affordable apartments were built overnight in Aspen they'd be sold out the next morning. If lifties in Jackson Hole made $30 an hour one bedroom apartments would cost $3,000 a month instead of $2,000 (or is it more currently?).

 

[JimG.]

After the nightmare that the eviction moratorium has been for landlords I fully expect rent to become more expensive than buying a house and paying the mortgage. Forget about the local employment situation. Rentals will be dominated by large corporations and the mom and pop landlords will sell their properties to avoid the risks associated with being a renter. Or they will go the short term rental route.

It's already happening. I know several small landlords who are selling ASAP, especially since the housing market is hot. I was considering renting out our house after we fully retire but no way after this pandemic.

 

[mikec142]

How will it effect the small businesses in the valley that now need to compete with getting seasonal help at this rate?

It's a good question and I'm not sure of the answer...but my gut feeling is that the more successful that Sugarbush is, the better it is for the other local businesses. More people come to visit. More employees with cash in their pocket who will spend in the valley, etc. A rising tide lifts all boats.

 

[thetrailboss]

After the nightmare that the eviction moratorium has been for landlords I fully expect rent to become more expensive than buying a house and paying the mortgage. Forget about the local employment situation. Rentals will be dominated by large corporations and the mom and pop landlords will sell their properties to avoid the risks associated with being a renter. Or they will go the short term rental route.

It's already happening. I know several small landlords who are selling ASAP, especially since the housing market is hot. I was considering renting out our house after we fully retire but no way after this pandemic.

Apparently the eviction moratorium is back "on", at least until October. It is not clear at all.

 

[Dickc]

Apparently the eviction moratorium is back "on", at least until October. It is not clear at all.

Bad news for the small landlord. More of them will sell to the big landlords. Those big Landlords will have to answer to the politicians, and the politicians will answer to their lobby. Its LOSE, LOSE for the average citizen.

 

[JimG.]

Apparently the eviction moratorium is back "on", at least until October. It is not clear at all.

There is no plan. Genuine Keystone Kops stuff. Making it all up as they go.

 

[urungus]

Bad news for the small landlord. More of them will sell to the big landlords. Those big Landlords will have to answer to the politicians, and the politicians will answer to their lobby. Its LOSE, LOSE for the average citizen.

For the “average citizen”, it’s still better than getting thrown out on the street tomorrow.

 

[Not Sure]

There is no plan. Genuine Keystone Kops stuff. Making it all up as they go.

Redirect Notice

Or planned? Shake the tree for low hanging fruit.
when the moratorium is gone cash in .