I grew up on/next to farms - cows, sure. . . pigs, well, I like bacon, . . .all kinds. . . . . good, natural scents, right? If anyone thinks there are objective views from those who benefits from subsidies, those who's checks are paid for by Big Media ( far more powerful than 'Big Oil- who btw invests more and more in alternative energy, because hey, if DC is gonna throw $$ around, they will get in line)1Dog, again you use articles from Powerline to discredit solar energy. Did you bother to understand who the people writing the articles are? They are a conservative based think tank with ties to many big businesses including big oil. Hardly a fair source to use to discredit solar energy. Do you think your getting an objective spin from them. Nope. Now get me a more credible source and I might listen to the argument. But since I know several people that have successfully paid off their initial investment in solar and are making money now, it will be a hard sell.
And by the way, I like the rural smells of pigs, chickens and cows. HA!
Forget for a minute the source - just take a look at the graphs, the amount of energy it would take to replace fossil fuel is years away. And just try, for a day, to live without all it creates. . . . . it can't be done ( easily, I'd say, at all.
Here's a great barroom game you can play (well okay, at a nerd bar anyway): what would a 'Green Energy Fantasy League' draft look like? How high would the bids go to have Greta Thunberg and Al Gore on your fantasy team? Can Amory Lovins be the Tom Brady of energy hucksters, still able to throw...
Can't say you didn't like the last one, eh?
Suffice to say there will be more tree-huggers than not on a forum like this. . . . I'm not for doing nothing, but not at the expense of the poor - 35-75% increase in energy 'because we don't like fossil fuels' aren't gonna help them pay their heat or gas bill.
It was fun to read the dreamers visions. . . . meanwhile, I'll take my fossil fuel-made skis, ride in our fossil fuel lifts, and even ski on fossil fuel, fueled man-made snow - 40-45% of all electricity still comes from coal. . . clean coal they call it now. . . . . . over and out.