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The "Sugarbush Thread"

1dog

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1Dog, again you use articles from Powerline to discredit solar energy. Did you bother to understand who the people writing the articles are? They are a conservative based think tank with ties to many big businesses including big oil. Hardly a fair source to use to discredit solar energy. Do you think your getting an objective spin from them. Nope. Now get me a more credible source and I might listen to the argument. But since I know several people that have successfully paid off their initial investment in solar and are making money now, it will be a hard sell.

And by the way, I like the rural smells of pigs, chickens and cows. HA!
I grew up on/next to farms - cows, sure. . . pigs, well, I like bacon, . . .all kinds. . . . . good, natural scents, right? If anyone thinks there are objective views from those who benefits from subsidies, those who's checks are paid for by Big Media ( far more powerful than 'Big Oil- who btw invests more and more in alternative energy, because hey, if DC is gonna throw $$ around, they will get in line)

Forget for a minute the source - just take a look at the graphs, the amount of energy it would take to replace fossil fuel is years away. And just try, for a day, to live without all it creates. . . . . it can't be done ( easily, I'd say, at all.


Can't say you didn't like the last one, eh?

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Suffice to say there will be more tree-huggers than not on a forum like this. . . . I'm not for doing nothing, but not at the expense of the poor - 35-75% increase in energy 'because we don't like fossil fuels' aren't gonna help them pay their heat or gas bill.

It was fun to read the dreamers visions. . . . meanwhile, I'll take my fossil fuel-made skis, ride in our fossil fuel lifts, and even ski on fossil fuel, fueled man-made snow - 40-45% of all electricity still comes from coal. . . clean coal they call it now. . . . . . over and out.
 

Hawk

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I am really not a total environmentalist but I do like to think that our country would move in a positive direction. But I also get your attitude. The, Fuck it - lets kick the can down the road and deal with it later. Actually and In reality it does not effect me. No kids to worry about and I will be long gone when the earth is scorched because the atmosphere has been depleted. The argument that the tech does not work well and the production has negative effects is old. You have to start somewhere or nothing will ever happen. So lets keep with the status quo and burn more oil and coal and just say fuck it. No big deal.
 

Hawk

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Also you were touting the use of Nuclear Energy. I would say be careful what you ask for. Aside from Chernobyl and other smaller accidents, you only have to look at Fukushima and the long term effects from that to understand we don't have a handle on that form of energy either. Read this and your taste for Pacific tuna might go away. 10 years later and they are still releasing tons of radioactive water into the ocean. Low levels now but not at the start.

Fukushima Radiation
 

dblskifanatic

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I do believe that renewables will be the way to go, however, the technology for storage is not there yet. Many solar farms and wind farms sell their carbon credits to utilities/businesses that are not so clean to offset oil and coal use. I helped to develop a solar farm and part of paying for it was selling off carbon credits. It is a chess match. If energy gets more expensive it will not be you or I that will be impacted the most it will be the low income folks and families. Even as we speak, gas prices are higher and like I said - the impact is nothing much to me besides paying more at the pump. it hurts the folks that make low wages and have to drive to work.
 

Hawk

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Anybody paying the $135 this weekend to drink beer? HA We are having our own party and going to another with really good music by a well know band. MTB, Beer and Music. Covid must be over now.
 

cdskier

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Anybody paying the $135 this weekend to drink beer? HA We are having our own party and going to another with really good music by a well know band. MTB, Beer and Music. Covid must be over now.

Hah. I guess 300 people must have paid that as they did finally sell out I noticed. So not worth it and I'm not exactly blown away by the lineup of the 7 breweries they're having either.
 

cdskier

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CD, from your place on the mountain you will hear the music I was talking about. It will be fun.

Damn...wish I was going to be up there but I'll be home in NJ this weekend. Not sure yet exactly when I'm getting back up there. Still trying to catch up on shit here at home that I neglected or have to do after spending all winter up there!
 
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