The "Sugarbush Thread"

[ss20]

There was a day in late November in the late 2010s that I skied Magic which was 90% open on natural snow. I distinctly remember skiing Witch and skiing how ridiculous that it was November 2xth

 

[Getskied]

Assuming they have water...that's been raised a couple times in this thread recently as a possible concern. Anyone know how the water levels in the pond and Mad River are doing?

The Mad River looks to be oscillating around median flow rates for this time of year for what it’s worth.

Mad River Near Moretown, VT

Monitoring location 04288000 is associated with a Stream in Washington County, Vermont. Current conditions of Discharge, Gage height, and Precipitation are available. Water data back to 1927 are available online.

waterdata.usgs.gov

Not to say it hasn’t been dry in the area but we’ve been spared the worst of the recent regional dryness for sure.

 

[pinnoke]

November 2018 indeed! This 'facebook memory' popped up on my feed this morning...
Heck...even last year's late-November was pretty fine!

 

[NYDB]

the rail jam went off well. Did any of you guys go?

 

[urungus]

Apparently Sugarbush is open, who knew ?

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[BodeMiller1]

Thanksgiving is not a skiing holiday. If you get turns in great, but it's almost always WROD.

Do you really want to ski with the crowds? No, there is time left. I don't need to ski 100 days; I need to ski 43 and I realize I'm not going to hit the ground running. The last 40 I want to be healthy and on it.

 

[MadPadraic]

Walts is lit up and the Gatehouse loading area is nearly bare.

 

[BodeMiller1]

This is my new hill. Talking to people who worked there, studying the trail maps. Looking forward to getting lost.

 

[nhskier1969]

I'm hoping someone at Sugarbush reads this thread. As every year gets warming, its going to be more and more difficult to make snow at lower evaluations any place in New England. Sugarbush is extremely fortunate that they have upper level pods. I think there only three resort in New England with upper level pods. These resorts in the future can use this advantage to open up terrain early. Other ski resorts in New England might want to figure out how to install upper elevation pods at their resorts. They'll need this to stay viable in the future.

 

[Hawk]

This is my new hill. Talking to people who worked there, studying the trail maps. Looking forward to getting lost.

Maybe we will do some runs Bode.

 

[MadPadraic]

I'm hoping someone at Sugarbush reads this thread. As every year gets warming, its going to be more and more difficult to make snow at lower evaluations any place in New England. Sugarbush is extremely fortunate that they have upper level pods. I think there only three resort in New England with upper level pods. These resorts in the future can use this advantage to open up terrain early. Other ski resorts in New England might want to figure out how to install upper elevation pods at their resorts. They'll need this to stay viable in the future.

Which three are you thinking of? Off the top of my head: Cannon, Stratton, Sugarloaf, Loon, Bretton Woods, Sugarbush?, Mt Snow (sorta)?

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Which three are you thinking of? Off the top of my head: Cannon, Stratton, Sugarloaf, Loon, Bretton Woods, Sugarbush?, Mt Snow (sorta)?

There probably should be an elevation component here b/c it's the combination of the two that make a difference for the purpose of this discussion. If we limit it to upper mountain pods with terrain primarily >3000' elevation, it's:

Saddleback
Sugarloaf
Cannon
Sugarbush
K
Stratton
Mt Snow
Whiteface and Gore too FWIW

 

[thebigo]

There probably should be an elevation component here b/c it's the combination of the two that make a difference for the purpose of this discussion. If we limit it to upper mountain pods with terrain primarily >3000' elevation, it's:

Saddleback
Sugarloaf
Cannon
Sugarbush
K
Stratton
Mt Snow
Whiteface and Gore too FWIW

WV also belongs on the list. Not sure snow belongs, base on north is around 2500'.

 

[Hawk]

I'm hoping someone at Sugarbush reads this thread. As every year gets warming, its going to be more and more difficult to make snow at lower evaluations any place in New England. Sugarbush is extremely fortunate that they have upper level pods. I think there only three resort in New England with upper level pods. These resorts in the future can use this advantage to open up terrain early. Other ski resorts in New England might want to figure out how to install upper elevation pods at their resorts. They'll need this to stay viable in the future.

I hardly think that they need to read this thread. This topic has come up every year since we have been on this board. Considering the focus they have on environmental affairs and tying to do the right thing, they have an acute awareness of the affects of Climate change. There have been many discussions that Win and John Hammond have had on this Forum and at the various other forums talking about future plans. Altera is susposed to upgrade the snowmaking but that takes money and we are in line for that.

As for thier meathodology, they do what they do and it has been my experience that whatever plan they have, its not going to be affected by a bunch of armchair quarterbacks like us. It's just waisted energy. But if you want to vent, go right ahead. This is the place for that.

 

[Lotso]

I hardly think that they need to read this thread. This topic has come up every year since we have been on this board. Considering the focus they have on environmental affairs and tying to do the right thing, they have an acute awareness of the affects of Climate change. There have been many discussions that Win and John Hammond have had on this Forum and at the various other forums talking about future plans. Altera is susposed to upgrade the snowmaking but that takes money and we are in line for that.

As for thier meathodology, they do what they do and it has been my experience that whatever plan they have, its not going to be affected by a bunch of armchair quarterbacks like us. It's just waisted energy. But if you want to vent, go right ahead. This is the place for that.

I am 100% certain that had HG not been out of commission, they'd have covered the top pod when they could and done the download thing. Yes, it's too bad they could not have shifted gears to open Summit, but hindsight is 20/20. As for them going back to that model, there is no way it will happen, given that all their major investments are at LP and having the only skiing available several miles away is not desirable. That being said, no amount of snowmaking upgrades will overcome warmer Novembers, so hopefully the upper mountain will be an option next fall. Until then we have to be patient.

Nice to see the snow today!

 

[nhskier1969]

There probably should be an elevation component here b/c it's the combination of the two that make a difference for the purpose of this discussion. If we limit it to upper mountain pods with terrain primarily >3000' elevation, it's:

Saddleback
Sugarloaf
Cannon
Sugarbush
K

Which three are you thinking of? Off the top of my head: Cannon, Stratton, Sugarloaf, Loon, Bretton Woods, Sugarbush?, Mt Snow (sorta)?

SB
Killington
Cannon
Forgot Sugarloaf.
Even though Stratton and Mt snow have upper pods the mtns are to far south. I've seen snowfall on LP mid mtn cams before and rain on the top of Stratton.

 

[thebigo]

Bottom terminal approx elevation:

High country t bar - 1050 m
North ridge quad - 1040 m
Timberline quad - 1000 m
Cannonball Quad- 960 m
Shooting star - 950 m
Kennebego quad - 925 m
ME Summit quad - 920 m
Mt Snow north peak lifts - 775 m
Heavens gate - 750 m

 

[nhskier1969]

Stratton is blowing snow at their base. Gatehouse nothing.

 

[Lotso]

Stratton is blowing snow at their base. Gatehouse nothing.

29 degrees at Stratton. 32 at LP. Can't get a break...

Plenty cold and snowy on summit pod.

 

[nhskier1969]

Over/Under Sugarbush opens upper mtn Ellen tomorrow. They are running GMX and blasting the top of the mtn.