The Super Bowl From An Unbiased Pats Fan's POV

[deadheadskier]

...oh and that was my first double quote ever on AZ. That qualifies as entertainment, so anyone who reads the post owes me a dollar :lol:

 

[jack97]

Frankly if I was in Brady's shoes, the propsect of 4 to 5 rounds of golf with my Dad at Pebble Beach is a heck of alot more inviting than 1 more football game.

The guys is bascially in the training rooms of Gillete stadium for most of the off sesaon, regular sesaon and sometime post season. This is down time to see his dad and mom (who enjoys golf).

II see nothing wrong with that either.

 

[ctenidae]

That said, america has an insatiable appetite for entertainment, so we in essence pay their salaries.

Bread and Circus. Worked for Rome, too.

 

[jack97]

Bread and Circus. Worked for Rome, too.

Great analogy! Once a sport gets to a level where it draws the viewership, government will intervene to ensure it will pacify the masses,

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Schilling, Manny, Papelbon, etc., etc....Sorry, but, outside of New England, the Red Sox have the same classless prima dona image like the Patriots. Glad to see you've finally noticed!!! (about the Patriots, at least....)

Oh come on thats a bit strong, you cant even find 1 person who plays against david ortiz that hates him can you? Everybody likes the guy, ya schilling runs his mouth a bit, so did pedroia but at least he backed it up, and Manny is just a knucklehead that nobody takes seriously, the only people who hate the redsox are yankees fans, everybody hates the Pats because they are all not likeable, theres just a few on the Sox.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Oh come on thats a bit strong, you cant even find 1 person who plays against david ortiz that hates him can you? Everybody likes the guy, ya schilling runs his mouth a bit, so did pedroia but at least he backed it up, and Manny is just a knucklehead that nobody takes seriously, the only people who hate the redsox are yankees fans, everybody hates the Pats because they are all not likeable, theres just a few on the Sox.

Fritolayguy, you always catch my bashing of the Red Sox. I guess I should have said "Sorry, but, outside of New England and from a Yankees fan's perspective, the Red Sox have the same classless prima dona image like the Patriots......"

We'll have to set up the "Yankees 2008" and "Red Sox 2008" chains pretty soon.

 

[jack97]

I guess I should have said "Sorry, but, outside of New England and from a Yankees fan's perspective, the Red Sox have the same classless prima dona image like the Patriots......"

Have add the yanks in on this classless image thing..... they brought home championships through better chemistry,

 

[Brettski]

Have add the yanks in on this classless image thing..... they brought home championships through better chemistry,

Only better thing would be if the Jets turn their miserable butts around and knock off the Pats next season

 

[jack97]

Only better thing would be if the Jets turn their miserable butts around and knock off the Pats next season

Don't think that will happen. Mangini inherited a defense that was built for a 4-3, Vilma is a stud in that base defense. Problem is the HC wanted to go over to a 3-4, Vilma doesn't have the size to play that type of defense. The teams needs a good draft this year for the make over. At off, they need a starting QB that can stay off the injury list, I can see the place implode now that they brought in Callahan, what is Schottenheimer going to do......

 

[Zand]

Oh come on thats a bit strong, you cant even find 1 person who plays against david ortiz that hates him can you? Everybody likes the guy, ya schilling runs his mouth a bit, so did pedroia but at least he backed it up, and Manny is just a knucklehead that nobody takes seriously, the only people who hate the redsox are yankees fans, everybody hates the Pats because they are all not likeable, theres just a few on the Sox.

I agree... unless something really drastic happens, the Red Sox won't be hated as much as the Patriots and Yankees even if they do start winning all time time. I don't understand the Papelbon reference, he danced and got fired up, but never said anything bad about anyone else. Schilling is outspoken, but has he really been wrong? It was Schilling that beat the Yankees in a game that ARod couldn't even turn by bitch slapping the ball. He definitely made 55,000 people from New York shut up with that performance.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Only better thing would be if the Jets turn their miserable butts around and knock off the Pats next season

Now that's just crazy talk.........first get a quarterback and then you can thinking about a winning record. :wink:

 

[2knees]

After thinking about yesterday's game, I've come to realize how disgusted and disappointed with the Patriots I really am. No, not because they lost the game. I have come to realize how classless they were last night. From Brady ignoring Eli during pregame when Eli went over to him to say goodluck to Belichick as well as half the team leaving the field before the game was even over.

I am also sick of all the drama around the team. Honestly, theres more drama around them then there is in my high school. And now, they have 2 players skipping out on the Pro Bowl. There was clearly nothing wrong with Brady's ankle last night, it's just an excuse. Even if it was hurting, he could still play a series or two and represent the AFC for a little while.

Obviously, being from MA I will continue to root for them unless this gets totally out of hand (more than it is now), but things need to change in the organization because right now they have a worse image than the Yankees, even to me. Anyways, congrats to the Giants, they played a great game last night. Lastly, I leave tou with 4 words: LETS GO RED SOX.

good points zand. I'm not a patriot fan but i do enjoy watching football played at its highest level, which the patriots did for the majority of the year.

I dont totally buy into the attitude thing though. So many teams in the nfl pull ridiculous stunts on and off the field, its just that with the patriots, its magnified 100x's.

What struck me most about the game is just the sheer luck involved in that last drive by the giants. There were 2 balls that SHOULD have been intercepted and 3 more that easily couldve been intercepted. Manning floated little balloons down the middle and on out patterns. He threw up a total prayer on the one tyree caught, or should i say harrison trapped on his helmet. And now i get to listen to everyone say how manning has arrived. BS, that was not a quarterback in control. I'm still amazed that they were able to complete that drive with the ridiculous stuff manning was throwing up. And i watched that drive 3 times last night just out of boredom.

 

[wa-loaf]

Do any of you guys read Bill Simmons?

He's written a pretty good summary of the game from a Pat fans perspective: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080204

 

[Brettski]

Now that's just crazy talk.........first get a quarterback and then you can thinking about a winning record. :wink:

As was the Giants winning the super bowl talk

 

[Hawkshot99]

good points zand. I'm not a patriot fan but i do enjoy watching football played at its highest level, which the patriots did for the majority of the year.

I dont totally buy into the attitude thing though. So many teams in the nfl pull ridiculous stunts on and off the field, its just that with the patriots, its magnified 100x's.

What struck me most about the game is just the sheer luck involved in that last drive by the giants. There were 2 balls that SHOULD have been intercepted and 3 more that easily couldve been intercepted. Manning floated little balloons down the middle and on out patterns. He threw up a total prayer on the one tyree caught, or should i say harrison trapped on his helmet. And now i get to listen to everyone say how manning has arrived. BS, that was not a quarterback in control. I'm still amazed that they were able to complete that drive with the ridiculous stuff manning was throwing up. And i watched that drive 3 times last night just out of boredom.

Just sounds like a losing Pats fan to me.....:razz:

 

[jack97]

What struck me most about the game is just the sheer luck involved in that last drive by the giants. There were 2 balls that SHOULD have been intercepted and 3 more that easily couldve been intercepted. Manning floated little balloons down the middle and on out patterns. He threw up a total prayer on the one tyree caught, or should i say harrison trapped on his helmet. And now i get to listen to everyone say how manning has arrived. BS, that was not a quarterback in control. I'm still amazed that they were able to complete that drive with the ridiculous stuff manning was throwing up. And i watched that drive 3 times last night just out of boredom.

You're spot on. IMO, an objective football fan would realize that a good secondary would have intercepted some of those passes. The pats D has been getting by with scheming and hiding their coverage. They only have one excellent d back, one good safety on the decline, two good lbs. Their defense has been a weakness all year.

In terms of Eli, he's making better decisions and yeah, the velocity is lacking. What will be telling is next season when D coordinators have time to study him. They should be able to design the coverage to expoit his lack of zip. But Eli has a qb coach that should be able to help on the mechanics, so the book isn't close on the guy until next season, thats when you can judge.

 

[2knees]

Just sounds like a losing Pats fan to me.....:razz:

you're right, it does. But you have to admit that it took a miracle for some of those passes not to be intercepted.

 

[Marc]

+1 for Marc's post, though since people are entertained it is not meaningless.

Until I figure out how to control and exploit them for extraordinary personal gain like the NFL has, the masses are meaningless to me.

 

[Paul]

Brady skipping the pro-bowl is something he's done in the past. He will be on TV this weekend, just out a Pebble Beach playing in the PGA Tour Golf event in their pro-am portion. He does this every year, and one of the other guys in his group each year is his Dad.

Frankly if I was in Brady's shoes, the propsect of 4 to 5 rounds of golf with my Dad at Pebble Beach is a heck of alot more inviting than 1 more football game.

The guys is bascially in the training rooms of Gillete stadium for most of the off sesaon, regular sesaon and sometime post season. This is down time to see his dad and mom (who enjoys golf).

II see nothing wrong with that either.

A few weeks ago, the sports world could have anticipated a Super Bowl matchup between Tony Romo's Dallas Cowboys and Tom Brady's New England Patriots. It would have been a classic battle between the NFL's most decorated teams led by the league's two glamour boys known as much for their play as for their heartthrob celebrity girlfriends.

That classic matchup could have been revisited just a few days later on the Pebble Beach greens, where Brady and Romo were tentatively scheduled to play in the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am.

But the Cowboys bowed out of the playoffs early, Brady's Bunch fell short a perfect season on Sunday and neither is coming to the Monterey Peninsula to play golf after all. Nor is Bill Belichick, Brady's head coach.

Linky-Dinky-Doo

Ummm, yeah.... about that... Looks like he's doing the same thing to Mom and Dad that he did to Eli.

 

[jack97]

Linky-Dinky-Doo

Ummm, yeah.... about that... Looks like he's doing the same thing to Mom and Dad that he did to Eli.

Until I figure out how to control and exploit them for extraordinary personal gain like the NFL has, the masses are meaningless to me.

It's the NFL's plan to make good guys and bad guys. Al Davis is getting too old and can't stir up the masses anymore. The B&B combo has become the cash cow for the league, everything they do will be monitored by ESPN and the NFL network.

It's brilliant!!!