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Trail Ratings

Treeskier

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Then there is Caution

I am understanding that trails are rated per area. Figuring that 33ish % is flat/beginer 33% intermedite and 33% black dimond. Then divide the pitch up and walla you have your trail ratings. I personally think that this is a good marketing ploy but not great for traveling guests. In such I also believe that under certain weather conditions a blue or green can quickly become a black. And add bumps to a normaly flat blue turns into a black, especially if you add ice to the mix. I do feel MTs often do the right thing and post at the chair that " today xxxx trail is not a blue but for experts only. Out west in Tahoe a lot of the areas posted a daily printed trail map showing which trails had snow making and or grooming the night before. Quite informative but in that vain they could easly add trail difficulty of the day. IE bumps on XXX blue trail. Soon that will be uploadable to our phone/PDAs . Which on the other hand if you are at a large place like MT Snow and you are with a group, but can only slip away for few key runs, it would be great to know if there where any bump runs and where they where.

I like the breakdown signs I've seen and where pointed out like a blue square with a Black Dimond in the middle. Then there is caution. That degree of pitch/obsticals beyond a double black dimond. I would put Paridice at Mad River, Stairstep at Jay and even though it is very small the skiers right of Rip Cord woods at MT. Snow. When you add required drop offs and trees then that should go beyound Double Black Dimong it becomes Caution! Like out west.
 

AdironRider

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No green ever becomes a black. But on every lift ticket and map youll see out there it warns that snow conditions can affect the ski surface, itd be a bad idea if the ratings changed every day depending on whether it was icy or not.
 

mckay

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How's this for nuanced-- Camelback uses a 6-level rating system: green, double green, blue, double blue, black, double black.

http://www.skicamelback.com/content_bigmap.php

I skied Mammoth Mountain last year and they have 6 ratings too: green, green/blue, blue, blue/black, black, and double black.

FWIW, I found the trails at that particular western mountain not steeper than what I've skied in the northeast. I wouldn't dream of skiing of a black diamond at Cannon or Wildcat, but I skied a couple at Mammoth and skied blue/blacks the whole time I was there. Of course, the top of Mammoth mountain looks like a gigantic version of Tuckerman's and is almost entirely double black. I cannot comment on the steepness of those trails.
 

kingslug

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No green ever becomes a black. But on every lift ticket and map youll see out there it warns that snow conditions can affect the ski surface, itd be a bad idea if the ratings changed every day depending on whether it was icy or not.

Big Emma at Snowbird in a blizzard quickly goes from greene to YIKES! in a hurry.
 

sledhaulingmedic

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One peeve of mine in this category:

Last Season, Wizard at Magic was downgraded to a blue. Talk about smoking crack. (This also came at the same time that the trail nearly doubled and the mountain suddenly had an East Side and a West Side. :puke:
 

Sorcerer

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One peeve of mine in this category:

Last Season, Wizard at Magic was downgraded to a blue. Talk about smoking crack. (This also came at the same time that the trail nearly doubled and the mountain suddenly had an East Side and a West Side. :puke:


smoking crack. (This also came at the same time that the trail nearly doubled and the mountain suddenly had an East Side and a West Side. :puke:[/QUOTE]


Magic has had a hard time classifying Wizzard. It's mostly blue (70-80%? of around 1.8 miles) but there are 3 drops that would be blacks at most places including Magic. The first chute always has someone standing and looking down it.

The steep side of the mountain has been called the West Side as long as I can remember - 30 years. I never heard the other side referred to as the east side. I think the mountain faces Nortwest so it has a north and west face.
 
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