Trash

[Angus]

The discussion regarding the annual Wachusett clean-up reminded me of something that was bugging me big time this weekend. Skiing at a popular area on Sunday, I was disgusted by the amount of trash (beer cans, water bottle, soft drinks, candy wrappers, etc) underneath the chairlifts. The beer cans on one lift were piled up on top of each other. It was sad and not a particularly good example for young children and teenagers.

During the summer I tend to stay away from ski areas because I find it so disturbing the level damage in evidence to the mountain sides but this is more disturbing because it is totally avoidable. & I recognize that garbage sometimes does drop unavoidably!

Thank you for letting me share!

On a lighter note, my young daughter was fascinated by the beads and women's undergarments hanging on the trees alongside a chairlift recently! I told her it was an underwear tree!

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Who the hell drinks during the ski day? That is for afterward!

The most I have on the chairlift is a granola bar, for chrissake.

I take my chances, but skiing impaired is not something that makes any sense, nor does it have any appeal. How is that fun? As the poster above said, it sets a bad example, not to mention the bad karma of turning a beatiful mountain into a dump.


Bluesman

 

[bvibert]

All the trash really bums me out. I have no idea why people feel the need to throw it all down there. Most of it is intentional too... :angry:

 

[bvibert]

Who the hell drinks during the ski day? That is for afterward!

Sadly, for some folks skiing is just another excuse to go out and drink with the guys... :roll:

 

[ctenidae]

They really ought to put trash barrels at the top of the lifts. Wouldn't stop much dropping, I realize, but it would make life easier for the responsible skiers.

 

[bvibert]

They really ought to put trash barrels at the top of the lifts. Wouldn't stop much dropping, I realize, but it would make life easier for the responsible skiers.

I've thought the same thing. I've even been to an area where they have trash barrels under the lift so its kind of like a game to get the trash in...

 

[alpinemorg]

Ed Abbey, writer and conservation, always bragged about throwing his beer cans out the window on the free-way as the area was certainly not a wilderness, but an already badly blemished and abused piece of land as a result of the free-way.

The mountains where resorts are have been cleared of hundreds/thousands of acres of forest, and subsequently habitat, for trails, lifts and as popularity of a place grows, the endless cancerous development of second homes. Popularity of a resort brings in a major influx of people and motor traffic to an area that is often an alpine environment and not capable of sustaining the traffic, emissions and wastes.

If we're skiing at a place that is continuing to cut forest for runs and homes, speeding up their lifts to serve more people, are we helping to "throw trash on the ground". Which is worse? Decreasing wild spaces or some un-sightly wrappers and beer cans (which taste darn good while skiing!).

 

[bvibert]

If we're skiing at a place that is continuing to cut forest for runs and homes, speeding up their lifts to serve more people, are we helping to "throw trash on the ground". Which is worse? Decreasing wild spaces or some un-sightly wrappers and beer cans (which taste darn good while skiing!).

So, we've already ruined the land? We may as well make it worse, who cares?? uke:

Sorry, just because the damage is done doesn't mean we should continue to trash it... :roll:

 

[Greg]

Ed Abbey, writer and conservation, always bragged about throwing his beer cans out the window on the free-way as the area was certainly not a wilderness, but an already badly blemished and abused piece of land as a result of the free-way.

The mountains where resorts are have been cleared of hundreds/thousands of acres of forest, and subsequently habitat, for trails, lifts and as popularity of a place grows, the endless cancerous development of second homes. Popularity of a resort brings in a major influx of people and motor traffic to an area that is often an alpine environment and not capable of sustaining the traffic, emissions and wastes.

If we're skiing at a place that is continuing to cut forest for runs and homes, speeding up their lifts to serve more people, are we helping to "throw trash on the ground". Which is worse? Decreasing wild spaces or some un-sightly wrappers and beer cans (which taste darn good while skiing!).

You can't be serious. For how well stated this post was, this one is simply ludicrous... :blink:

 

[alpinemorg]

:-D
Greg, I'm disapointed! Just because you don't agree with what I wrote doesn't make it poorly stated! Especially when everything I said does have some merit to it. I'm glad it got some people thinking.

Alternative opinions can be fun!

;-)

 

[Greg]

:-D

Alternative opinions can be fun!

;-)

So is trolling to some...

 

[Sky]

You can't be serious.

I'm hoping he's not.

I like what Wachusett does...sponsor a clean-up day, feed you lunch and give you a free lift ticket for the next year.

I like the way they do business.

 

[dmc]

Sadly, for some folks skiing is just another excuse to go out and drink with the guys... :roll:

Is that wrong?? Sorry I must've missed the memo...


Hunter sends people up the lift lines to pick up the accumulated trash.. It gets cleaned up shortly after the hill closes...

 

[bvibert]

Is that wrong?? Sorry I must've missed the memo...


Hunter sends people up the lift lines to pick up the accumulated trash.. It gets cleaned up shortly after the hill closes...

Nope, nothing wrong with that, as long as you're still in control....

Where I work they send people down the mountain to pick up garbage, ussually during the day on weekends since it would be hard to do so after we close at 10. Its just another added exspense for the mountain is all...

 

[Grassi21]

Beads?

Angus, were those beads and undies hanging on a tree at Ski Sundown? I saw a set of beads hanging in a tree a couple of weekends back.

I'm with the majority on this issue. It is disturbing to see how much filth accumulates under the lifts. Beer cans and other assorted trash is bad. But the cigarette butts is what pisses me off the most.

One thing the wife and I laugh at when riding the lift is the number of poles we see. Most times they are wee little poles or the ones you get when renting equipment for the day.

 

[riverc0il]

alpinemorg, i suppose you don't care anything for city pollution either since we have already clear cut, leveled, terraformed, and re-developed the land? by those standards, the only place where not polluting would matter are areas of natural wilderness. how much difference do you suppose there is between cutting a hiking trail for recreation or cutting a ski trail for recreation? your arguement is flawed to suppose that because an area has had trees removed that there is no difference if people litter. i understand your point, but it doesn't make any sense logically unless you believe the entire world is a dump except wilderness lands.

fwiw, in regards to ski area litter, i rarely see it but that may be because of where i ski.

 

[bvibert]

Angus, were those beads and undies hanging on a tree at Ski Sundown? I saw a set of beads hanging in a tree a couple of weekends back.

Hmmm... I must have missed that. Sundown has never had a bead or undie tree that I've seen.

I'm with the majority on this issue. It is disturbing to see how much filth accumulates under the lifts. Beer cans and other assorted trash is bad. But the cigarette butts is what pisses me off the most.

As I'm sure I've stated here before, that's one of my biggest pet-peeves in general, not just under lifts, :angry:

 

[NYDrew]

More resorts should start catching onto the trend of garbage funnels. Montage had one when I worked there, everyone loved trying to hit the can below...extra points if you didnt hit the sides of the funnel. Trash at montage is much less then areas without the funnel below the lift.

If people got bad aim, at least the trash is consolodated into one area that is easy to clean.

 

[dmc]

Nope, nothing wrong with that, as long as you're still in control....

Joking.. I don't DRiiiiiNK and ski... I would never DRiiiiiNK and ski... Right JimG?

 

[NYDrew]

youve denied me my smokes in a bar, you will never deny me smokes on a lift!!!! I have a pocket just to put butts in though. Hate when people toss them.