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VAIL SUCKS

2Planker

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You think they'll each only be open 4 days per week? Wow.
That was what Vail said maybe 6-8 weeks ago.
Fri-Mon for Attitash and Fri-Sun for WC, plus all holidays for both
Snowmaking at one or the other, never both on the same night - Same as last year.

YES a ton of folks have requested refunds already
 
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As a midweek skier and a big big fan of wildcat this would hurt.
 

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Do you have a link for this? That’s huge news, if true.
I don't off hand, But it was discussed in this thread

Attitash is barren. Locked up tight. No one around any of the offices yesterday, and not answering any of the phones.
They desperately need Lift Mechanics, Patrollers, F&B, and all the hotel workers
Only message is "Follow us on Social Media".

WC has a few staff in but only 6 people showed up last Sat for the job fair.
Their phone has been off the hook for 4 days. Just a Busy Signal
Opening Day is in just 2 weeks, Hmmmm, we'll see how that goes
 
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I don't off hand, But it was discussed in this thread

Pretty certain that was Smellytele making a joke

If there was any validity to that schedule, Atticats social media would be popping off with pitchfork posts every single day. Though I won't have a pass there, I still follow them on social media. I haven't seen any of that.
 

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Pretty certain that was Smellytele making a joke

If there was any validity to that schedule, Atticats social media would be popping off with pitchfork posts every single day. Though I won't have a pass there, I still follow them on social media. I haven't seen any of that.
The truth is: They just don't know....
The Patrol Director called last weekend, begging for people to come back. Told me they just don't know IF they are going to be able to operate at 100% this year.
So, it may have been a joke, Ha Ha Ha But it could be coming to fruition now
 

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The truth is: They just don't know....
The Patrol Director called last weekend, begging for people to come back. Told me they just don't know IF they are going to be able to operate at 100% this year.
So, it may have been a joke, Ha Ha Ha But it could be coming to fruition now

What is the pay / benefit advantage to patrol at Sunday River or Bretton Woods vs Atticat?

Last year lots of people made it excuses that staffing was hard during the pandemic. But, my view of the competition was that while perhaps not staffed to the levels they normally would be, they were all doing so much better than Atticat.
 

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The truth is: They just don't know....
The Patrol Director called last weekend, begging for people to come back. Told me they just don't know IF they are going to be able to operate at 100% this year.
So, it may have been a joke, Ha Ha Ha But it could be coming to fruition now
They'll scrape by with 1 trail, one lift and a skeleton crew with the worst experience imaginable for their paying guests long before they go to a part time operating schedule. They probably have tons of salaried employees they can make work 100 hours a week to pull it off.... gotta keep that stock price high
 

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They'll scrape by with 1 trail, one lift and a skeleton crew with the worst experience imaginable for their paying guests long before they go to a part time operating schedule. They probably have tons of salaried employees they can make work 100 hours a week to pull it off.... gotta keep that stock price high

I don't know about "tons of salaried employees." For that operation, maybe 5-10
 

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For what’s its worth attitash/ wildcat has had an ad in the local paper for about a month now. They also had an ad on the radio looking for a fleet maintenance supervisor at attitash, in charge of all snowcats, plow trucks, snowmobiles etc. $18 hr. 😂 Last year they didn’t advertise so this is better.
Without the j 1’s they’re going to be in serious trouble. Without skilled labor they’re going to be in serious trouble. The local paper is also filled with want ads for warm shitty low paying jobs. The $450ish season pass isn’t much of a perk. Probably going to be rough.
The good news of the mwv is the local chamber pass is back after not having last year. Minus attitash and wildcat for the first time though. Vail really does suck.
 

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For what’s its worth attitash/ wildcat has had an ad in the local paper for about a month now. They also had an ad on the radio looking for a fleet maintenance supervisor at attitash, in charge of all snowcats, plow trucks, snowmobiles etc. $18 hr. 😂 Last year they didn’t advertise so this is better.
Without the j 1’s they’re going to be in serious trouble. Without skilled labor they’re going to be in serious trouble. The local paper is also filled with want ads for warm shitty low paying jobs. The $450ish season pass isn’t much of a perk. Probably going to be rough.
The good news of the mwv is the local chamber pass is back after not having last year. Minus attitash and wildcat for the first time though. Vail really does suck.
Lol when I saw the ad in the Conway Daily Sun there was no phone number or info or anything. Just “help wanted all positions” haha.
 

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The travel ban is going to be lifted on November 8th. That should at least help out getting the J1s back.
Are they lifting the vaccination requirement for international travel? What I read a few weeks ago mentioned that was a major hangup as the vaccines being given in the countries they're recruiting don't meet the US requirement
 

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The travel ban is going to be lifted on November 8th. That should at least help out getting the J1s back.
Sort of, that is for fully vaxed foreigners. Then there is mandatory pre-travel test requirements still. So yes the pipeline will reopen, but it will be quite a bit narrower than in the past.
 

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The travel ban is going to be lifted on November 8th. That should at least help out getting the J1s back.
Has nothing to do with J1s. The work and travel program restarted months ago. The problem now is visa processing time and access to vaccines in some of the source countries.
 
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