VAIL SUCKS

[2Planker]

Hard to open when you have no snowmakers working at the mountain!

WC website used to say Fri 11/19 Opening Day.
Not anymore.... and their Events Page is completely empty.
Usually by now they got a few Pub listings and early season events.
Not a good sign...

Attitash Opening was previously Fri 12/3, but they still have a ton of adds in The Sun and on the radio.
Course those adds are probably for both WC & Attitash at this very late stage of the game.

Oh well... The $299 Chamber of Commerce Pass dropped both Vail resorts for 21/22.
Now has Black, Cranmore, King Pine, Shawnee & BW - 5 visits each.
Plus all the local 6 XC trail centers.

 

[Mainer]

Wildcat just updated their Facebook page. Waiting on Mother Nature, they’ll keep us posted. They probably haven’t blown anything.
The mwv chamber didn’t drop attitash/wildcat. Vail refused to join it, not part of their business model. That’s what the lady there told me.

 

[Smellytele]

The mwv chamber didn’t drop attitash/wildcat. Vail refused to join it, not part of their business model. That’s what the lady there told me.

Right just like they are not part of Ski NH or the Colorado equivalent. Strange they are part of SKIVT though.

 

[2Planker]

Wildcat just updated their Facebook page. Waiting on Mother Nature, they’ll keep us posted. They probably haven’t blown anything.
The mwv chamber didn’t drop attitash/wildcat. Vail refused to join it, not part of their business model. That’s what the lady there told me.

Not exactly...

A lot of MWV businesses have been hurt by Vail's "lack of effort" ove the last 2 ski seasons.
Local business owners do NOT want to participate in anything that benefits Vail.
This point was clearly stated at the Conway CofC mtng earlier this year.
Truth is - If Vail was on the Chamber Pass, then the business owners & employees just wouldn't buy it.

 

[cdskier]

Okemo, Stowe and mt snow all list their openings days but not atitash or wildcat, kinda weird if you ask me

not that they're gonna stick to those

Stowe and Okemo already pushing it back per their posts on social media...

 

[Mainer]

I had this exact talk with Janice last May after she met with all the ski areas. She said vail didn’t want to do it, her words were it goes against vail business model. My business joins the chamber just for the ski pass. Maybe business owners didn’t want vail but vail doesn’t want to join the chamber either.

 

[2Planker]

I had this exact talk with Janice last May after she met with all the ski areas. She said vail didn’t want to do it, her words were it goes against vail business model. My business joins the chamber just for the ski pass. Maybe business owners didn’t want vail but vail doesn’t want to join the chamber either.

No doubt...

 

[spiderpig]

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Stowe and Okemo already pushing it back per their posts on social media...

Yes, they have finally finished the rounds on social media with Mount Snow a few minutes ago. It would have been nice to see them actually try this week.

 

[snoseek]

Im calling it now. Cannon will open with multiple routes before attitash or wildcat turns their first chairs

 

[Mainer]

Cranmore opened before wildcat last year.

 

[icecoast1]

Yes, they have finally finished the rounds on social media with Mount Snow a few minutes ago. It would have been nice to see them actually try this week.

60 and rain Thursday after only at best 2 nights of non optimal snowmaking this week, there was no way they were making Friday, at Mount Snow at least

 

[deadheadskier]

As a Wildcat refugee, I know understand how a Cleveland Browns fan must have felt in 95. Rob Katz is basically Art Modell.

 

[Smellytele]

Im calling it now. Cannon will open with multiple routes before attitash or wildcat turns their first chairs

Not much of a call.

 

[Newpylong]

Per my contact at Okemo: they have a grand total of 4 snowmakers. Other positions are now being "drafted" for lack of a better word.

 

[deadheadskier]

Per my contact at Okemo: they have a grand total of 4 snowmakers. Other positions are now being "drafted" for lack of a better word.

Per my contact at Okemo: they have a grand total of 4 snowmakers. Other positions are now being "drafted" for lack of a better word.

In your experience, what would full staffing look like for a mountain that size?

 

[eatskisleep]

Not much of a call.

Would be something if Black opened before Attitash and/or Wildcat.

 

[Kingslug20]

In your experience, what would full staffing look like for a mountain that size?

Not a snow maker but I would assume..a hell of a lot more than that. A dozen?

 

[Newpylong]

20+

 

[deadheadskier]

That's what I figured. Wonder if Killington or Stratton are struggling as badly. I also wonder what the pay disparity is if they are not having the same issue. K does at least have the advantage of offering a longer employment season. If I was interested in that kind of work, that would be my negotiating stance. "If you want me to make snow for you, you better pay me X amount of dollars more than Killington because they're going to provide me work for an additional 3-5 weeks."

 

[FBGM]

I wonder if resorts start heavily investing in auto technology. A lot already have, but this could kick that into gear more. But even if say Okemo was full auto, you still need more then 4 guys. Just with 2 shifts and days off. Hopefully they have a manager and supervisor that’s not included in that 4. Hope they like long hours and No days off…