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VAIL SUCKS

drjeff

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I wonder if resorts start heavily investing in auto technology. A lot already have, but this could kick that into gear more. But even if say Okemo was full auto, you still need more then 4 guys. Just with 2 shifts and days off. Hopefully they have a manager and supervisor that’s not included in that 4. Hope they like long hours and No days off…

100% agree!

And even if it is a crew of 4 at Okemo, considering for safety reasons they send them out onto the hill in teams of 2, that's basically 1 team of day shift and 1 team of night shift. Then factor in the amount of time it takes to set up and/or shut down a trail, let alone the time needed for gun checks on a trail they're making snow on, and that for sure is the recipe for decreased potential quantity of production both in terms of trails they can run the system on simultaneously, as well as likey total number of hours per week they might be able to make snow should mother nature feel like cooperating.

just not a good scenario, and one that I am guessing is more common than the abnormal across the industry!

Hope FGBM that you were able to find the equipment that you were looking for for the mountain you're at and don't have to deal with such a crazy labor shortage!
 

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100% agree!

And even if it is a crew of 4 at Okemo, considering for safety reasons they send them out onto the hill in teams of 2, that's basically 1 team of day shift and 1 team of night shift. Then factor in the amount of time it takes to set up and/or shut down a trail, let alone the time needed for gun checks on a trail they're making snow on, and that for sure is the recipe for decreased potential quantity of production both in terms of trails they can run the system on simultaneously, as well as likey total number of hours per week they might be able to make snow should mother nature feel like cooperating.

just not a good scenario, and one that I am guessing is more common than the abnormal across the industry!

Hope FGBM that you were able to find the equipment that you were looking for for the mountain you're at and don't have to deal with such a crazy labor shortage!
I have enough “okay working equipment” for what I need. I was looking for some insurance, haha.

We are so small I can run with 2-3 people. That I have staffed luckily. I’ll turn on this Friday night for the first time. With just me here. Few hundred GPM, few fans. More of a test at temps for what looks like a better window following week.
 

drjeff

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I have enough “okay working equipment” for what I need. I was looking for some insurance, haha.

We are so small I can run with 2-3 people. That I have staffed luckily. I’ll turn on this Friday night for the first time. With just me here. Few hundred GPM, few fans. More of a test at temps for what looks like a better window following week.
Best of luck to you! Hope you don't suddenly find yourself looking for an excavator and the welding equipment during your test!
 

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Wildcat got theyre cams working and are blowing snow. Looks like to the lookers right instead of Lynx which i can get behind
 
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drjeff

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Can't say that I disagree with the concept of "limiting" day ticket sales during the 3 major Holiday periods of the season. Who knows exactly to what extent they will limit day ticket sales though and if it will be a significant amount to actually make tangible difference with respect to lift lines those weekends?

Comes across as a "perk" to passholders, even though it's ultimately something to drive more Epic Pass Product sales at its core
 

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Does anyone know if J1's are back this season?

It would seem so from a recent article about Sugarbush and MRG in the local MRV newspaper:
Staffing remains a challenge for all local businesses and Sugarbush has managed to hire J1 and H2B visa holders to help fill jobs. He said just over 70% of open jobs had been accepted by an applicant.

Whether Vail managed to bring in any J1s though for their northeast resorts I have no idea...
 

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It would seem so from a recent article about Sugarbush and MRG in the local MRV newspaper:


Whether Vail managed to bring in any J1s though for their northeast resorts I have no idea...
I think they did at Mt. Snow cause theres been a few looking for housing on the facebook page.
 

2Planker

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The problem is housing. Vail pays crap, and the rents are high in the MWV.

Places like Saddleback are building or converting condo's to be employee housing.
 

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NEW Vail Operating Plan? I've seen the headlines but has anyone seen the actual NEW operating plan? I'd like to look it over knowing that I can do anything about it so if you could share where to read it? I expect it'll be like going to the doctor and getting your prostate checked.
 

mbedle

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NEW Vail Operating Plan? I've seen the headlines but has anyone seen the actual NEW operating plan? I'd like to look it over knowing that I can do anything about it so if you could share where to read it? I expect it'll be like going to the doctor and getting your prostate checked.
Not sure anyone is going to find any specifics on the actual plan. However, they mentioned a new load and unloading process will be used at the lifts to reduce slows and stops. Can't imagine what the hell that means....
 

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Not sure anyone is going to find any specifics on the actual plan. However, they mentioned a new load and unloading process will be used at the lifts to reduce slows and stops. Can't imagine what the hell that means....
Ambassadors with bull whips???:rolleyes:
 

gittist

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Ambassadors with bull whips???:rolleyes:
And the chairlift will forcibly eject you on the uphill end so there won't be a problem with people not clearing the unloading area or staying on the chair so long that it trips the safety switch. (y)
 
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