VAIL SUCKS

[Geoff]

Vail may not have money to pay enough to attract people to fill their open positions in the east, but they apparently have money to spend on advertising on TV. I saw an ad for Stowe and Hunter back to back a couple times tonight on TV here in NJ encouraging people to buy tickets now.

There are still people who watch TV with commercials for anything other than sports? Who knew?

On the labor thing, I don’t understand the lack of RFID gates at the lifts.

 

[Edd]

There are still people who watch TV with commercials for anything other than sports? Who knew?

On the labor thing, I don’t understand the lack of RFID gates at the lifts.

Yeah, weird because Sunapee had them before Vail bought them. Now they're gone.

 

[RichT]

I'm a 40yr+ skier at Hunter (2nd homeowner too), after these past weeks I've made a decision to spend ZERO money at the Mtn, I will bring my own food, booze and music with me. Fuck VAIL!!!!!!!

 

[abc]

What's going on at Hunter?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Lol at anyone who still buys into this shit

 

[IceEidolon]

I know used RFID gates can be sold for substantial money, if they were in decent shape. Maybe Vail didn't contract with the old system provider and sold off the old hardware but didn't get the new gear installed in time?

 

[telemike]

I heard the old Sunapee RFID gates went to Ragged

 

[asnowmobiler]

What's going on at Hunter?

 

[ThatGuy]

Stowe today

 

[RichT]

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1) NO communication from Hunter/Vail at all!
2) Minimal snowmaking.
3) Nazi mask police.
4) 45 minute max at bar with 2 drink max, no shots, music , TV's or hanging with to many people.
5) So far free parking, BUT i'm sure once they can figure that one out it won't be.
6) Not enough employees.
7) No fireworks, bands or events scheduled............going to have to go to Windham for any of that.
8) ...................

 

[thetrailboss]

So I have to say that Vail has really pushed the standards for customer service, industrywide, to new lows. Many other resorts see that the only thing that people care about are cheap passes. I was talking in line this morning with another Alta/Bird passholder. Snowbird does not have enough staff to open more lifts or terrain and we all know about Alta's issues with crowds and parking. The corporatization of skiing has gotten worse. I think we're now in worse position than when ASC was still operating.

 

[ThatGuy]

When the only thing on corporate bean counters minds is pleasing shareholders then this is the result. Next season will be when we really find out if Vails austerity style is sustainable, or will a lot of pass holders be done with it.

 

[thetrailboss]

When the only thing on corporate bean counters minds is pleasing shareholders then this is the result. Next season will be when we really find out if Vails austerity style is sustainable, or will a lot of pass holders be done with it.

It seems that a lot of New Hampshire/Northern New England Vail skiers are pretty upset. But it will be interesting to see if these folks leave and if it is enough to make any difference. It seems that Vail is banking on the city skiers who buy Epic and ski ten days a season to keep them in business.

 

[RichT]

It's my home Mtn, so I'm kinda stuck, but like I've said, I'll buy the pass and spend ZERO money there. Going to go with the midweek one next year (but I bet they'll get rid of that). I can do day trips to Mt Snow and Okemo and spend zero $$$$$ there also.

 

[snoseek]

Half hour waits today at sunapee today. Lot of crotched jackets. They do seem to be blowing some snow

 

[Kingslug20]

It would be safe to say..that most things in the world today are not operating as before.

 

[MadKitty]

Cat was empty today. At least from noon-2:30. Mostly the wildcat/gorham hs race team. Snow ranged from grippy NH ice to a few pockets of blown in pow. Saw more rippers than you would see in a week at Vail's Colorado areas so the wildcat stoke is still alive. Unfortunately no employees had an update on the upper mtn snowmaking pump. They were blowing snow on polecat, bet that opens before Xmas. Also saw a "fuck vail" sticker with the same font/logo as the official vail logo. Gave me a chuckle.

 

[MadKitty]

It would be safe to say..that most things in the world today are not operating as before.

Everything is being optimized to maximize quarterly profits. Most common background for a ceo is they worked at Mckinsey and Co. This means society (from ski areas to medicine to everything else!) is increasingly being run by a group of people who:

a) went to a fancy college
b) spent years getting hazed through unproductively long working hrs
c) have no real world skills, they are experts at power point and excel though!!!!

 

[2Planker]

Cat was empty today. At least from noon-2:30. Mostly the wildcat/gorham hs race team. Snow ranged from grippy NH ice to a few pockets of blown in pow. Saw more rippers than you would see in a week at Vail's Colorado areas so the wildcat stoke is still alive. Unfortunately no employees had an update on the upper mtn snowmaking pump. They were blowing snow on polecat, bet that opens before Xmas. Also saw a "fuck vail" sticker with the same font/logo as the official vail logo. Gave me a chuckle.

Saw the Fuck Vail sticker at church tonite Kinda Apropos

 

[eatskisleep]

So I have to say that Vail has really pushed the standards for customer service, industrywide, to new lows. Many other resorts see that the only thing that people care about are cheap passes. I was talking in line this morning with another Alta/Bird passholder. Snowbird does not have enough staff to open more lifts or terrain and we all know about Alta's issues with crowds and parking. The corporatization of skiing has gotten worse. I think we're now in worse position than when ASC was still operating.

#bringbackASC #lescomeback