VAIL SUCKS

[Kingslug20]

Think ill go to Hunter tomorrow..slide around a bit.

 

[thetrailboss]

#bringbackASC #lescomeback

Dude, he is going to be reopening the Balsams soon.

 

[chuckstah]

Here's a nice Instagram to follow

Stowe Parking Lot on Instagram: "Powder Day Baby! 📹: @hillymtnluv"

Stowe Parking Lot shared a post on Instagram: "Powder Day Baby! 📹: @hillymtnluv". Follow their account to see 190 posts.

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[thetrailboss]

Here's a nice Instagram to follow

Stowe Parking Lot on Instagram: "Powder Day Baby! 📹: @hillymtnluv"

Stowe Parking Lot shared a post on Instagram: "Powder Day Baby! 📹: @hillymtnluv". Follow their account to see 190 posts.

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That is hilarious! So bummed for Stowe locals.

 

[thetrailboss]

Word on the street out here is that Park City Mountain Resort is woefully understaffed. I am seeing at least 140 position openings including entry level groomers, lift operators ($15 per hour), and snowmakers (starting at $15 per hour).

Park City Jobs: Explore. Grow. Belong.

Receive $20/hr. starting wage and perks/benefits that allow you to discover a passion for the outdoors. With 40+ resorts, you can join for a season or stay for a career.

jobs.vailresortscareers.com

I've always wanted to run a groomer....

 

[Bosco DaSkia]

Not as much fun as it looks. Mostly grinding ice here on the east side. Makes for a long slow bumpy ride. 8 hours of fighting the sleep demons inside a circle of bright lights in a sea of darkness.




Fact.

 

[Kingslug20]

Guess once im up there ill be getting up real early for Stowe on the weekends...

 

[snoseek]

Guess once im up there ill be getting up real early for Stowe on the weekends...

You're retired now right? Just go brunching or something insteaad

 

[Smellytele]

You're retired now right? Just go brunching or something insteaad

Skip weekends. Use them to do chores and run errands.

 

[deadheadskier]

Yeah, the day I retire is the day I give up skiing weekends unless it's really good weather or it dumps. Same goes for boating. Outside of kids visiting I suppose.

 

[Kingslug20]

Guns are going at Hunter...the cloud

 

[Geoff]

It seems that a lot of New Hampshire/Northern New England Vail skiers are pretty upset. But it will be interesting to see if these folks leave and if it is enough to make any difference. It seems that Vail is banking on the city skiers who buy Epic and ski ten days a season to keep them in business.

Yep. That’s the business model. Sell Epic Passes to Texans who only ski 4 or 5 days at the I-70 resorts. The 40+ day per year skier isn’t their market. I grew up with a pricing model where 22 days was break even on a pass.

 

[tumbler]

Not as much fun as it looks. Mostly grinding ice here on the east side. Makes for a long slow bumpy ride. 8 hours of fighting the sleep demons inside a circle of bright lights in a sea of darkness.




Fact.

About the opposite of how I would describe grooming. You running an old Tucker?

 

[FBGM]

Word on the street out here is that Park City Mountain Resort is woefully understaffed. I am seeing at least 140 position openings including entry level groomers, lift operators ($15 per hour), and snowmakers (starting at $15 per hour).

Park City Jobs: Explore. Grow. Belong.

Receive $20/hr. starting wage and perks/benefits that allow you to discover a passion for the outdoors. With 40+ resorts, you can join for a season or stay for a career.

jobs.vailresortscareers.com

I've always wanted to run a groomer....

It was amazing just 5-7 years ago I’d have 100+ applications for grooming a year. Snowmaking bit less. J1s that would come back every year, same ones.

I’m also a firm believer (now that I’ve gone from ski business, to corporate construction, now back to ski) that a cat operator should be paid same as an equipment operator in construction. Starting pay around $18. Top skilled 5+ year guys in the $25-$30 range.

 

[abc]

It was amazing just 5-7 years ago I’d have 100+ applications for grooming a year. Snowmaking bit less. J1s that would come back every year, same ones.

5-7 years ago, that free annual pass worth a lot more than it does now. So the effective pay was higher.

Speaking of J1s, I ran into quite a few who doesn't even ski. Whatever that implies.

 

[Geoff]

5-7 years ago, that free annual pass worth a lot more than it does now. So the effective pay was higher.

Speaking of J1s, I ran into quite a few who doesn't even ski. Whatever that implies.

And the free pass benefit extended to family members. Plus employee discount on everything. Inflation adjusted, I used to pay north of $2k for a season pass.

 

[FBGM]

5-7 years ago, that free annual pass worth a lot more than it does now. So the effective pay was higher.

Speaking of J1s, I ran into quite a few who doesn't even ski. Whatever that implies.

I have 4 this year. They have no idea about anything (HR recruits them, sticks them random in departments…)

Trying to teach the one snowmaking. Not going well.

They are more just extra labor and odd jobs around my area. Which is totally fine. Just not a designated skilled type like I’ve been used to in past. Hopefully some training and motivation goes far with them.

 

[eatskisleep]

It was amazing just 5-7 years ago I’d have 100+ applications for grooming a year. Snowmaking bit less. J1s that would come back every year, same ones.

I’m also a firm believer (now that I’ve gone from ski business, to corporate construction, now back to ski) that a cat operator should be paid same as an equipment operator in construction. Starting pay around $18. Top skilled 5+ year guys in the $25-$30 range.

Yeah crazy how different wages are up north versus Boston area. Cat operator can easily make $40-50+ Per hour near Boston. I see on Vail’s website Job openings for snow makers at Wildcat at $13 an hour. Ouch.

 

[FBGM]

Yeah crazy how different wages are up north versus Boston area. Cat operator can easily make $40-50+ Per hour near Boston. I see on Vail’s website Job openings for snow makers at Wildcat at $13 an hour. Ouch.

That $40-$50/hr for equipment operator is most likely Union. For whatever they might be worth.

When I was in the construction industry we were non union, but would pretty much end up paying union wage to get staff. But out in Utah the unions were weak. $30/hr out there was decent for even a union equipment operator. Compared to $60+ in say a Boston or NYC

 

[tumbler]

5-7 years ago, that free annual pass worth a lot more than it does now. So the effective pay was higher.

Speaking of J1s, I ran into quite a few who doesn't even ski. Whatever that implies.

Yes, but a great deal of the experienced operators are not doing it for the pass, they are doing it for a living. I would like to see some of them on skis